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Live ZetaTalk Chat on Jan 11, 2003

Session Start: Sat Jan 11 14:25:43 2003
(Endeavour3d) maybe Wisconson(sp?)
(Dim) Is there something that we can do to help those STO's who find themselves amid STS's against their will after the poleshift?
(Endeavour3d) 3 minutes early
(Endeavour3d) must have been the government
(NancyL) Queen, I am read whenever you are, one announcement to make.
(Endeavour3d) that's a joke
(Dim) Is there any way that we can help Nancy other than with donations before the shift?
(Endeavour3d) all things considered, I believe she is helped quite more than most
(QueenVee) Nancy's ZetaTalk Session begin shortly. If you have a question for the agenda, please give it to me privately. Moderation mode will be on while Nancy does ZetaTalk (no one else can speak), but there will be opportunity for follow-up questions.
(NancyL) ANNOUNCEMENT: Jan 10th Images just now available from the web: ../teams/rogue/shavas26.htm
(QueenVee) okay Nancy
(Endeavour3d) well, in relation to the Zetas, God helps the rest etc
(NancyL) Yes, lets begin!!!
(QueenVee) FIRST QUESTION: Will the tail of PlanetX sweep the earth while the Earth's rotation is stopped, therefore only scattering debris on part of the earth? If so, which areas will be affected/not affected? And from which direction will the debris from the tail come?
(NancyL) ZT: We have mentioned that the tail CURLS toward the Earth, pulled by gravity and magnetic and other attractants, thus red dust lands hours before the point of passage.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, red dusting is a countdown clue, that only hours remain.
(NancyL) ZT: The Earth, at this point, has been stopped in its rotation for days, approximately a week.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, since the South Pacific is more in line with where the tail is COMING from, will this be the spot where the lick of the tail is first experienced?
(NancyL) ZT: Dust clouds, as anyone experiencing a sand storm will attest, have a life of their own.
(NancyL) ZT: The cloud itself exists because there is some kind of GLUE holding it together.
(NancyL) ZT: The dust clings to the debris which clings to the larger debris such as moons, and these cling to Planet X.
(Obany) !kick NancyIsLying
(NancyL) ZT: There is more than gravity involved, as this is too simplistic an explanation, and more than magnetism though the iron ore is certainly more magnetically active than most dust clouds.
(NancyL) ZT: The tail streams behind Planet X, which is moving rapidly and has been during the preceding months, and is involved in swirling motions as the Moons have a dance between themselves.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, there is MOTION already.
(NancyL) ZT: A tail swirl, moving like a slow moving tornado, approaches Earth which has magentic as well as gravity attraction.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, it is not simply a HEAD-ON hit, tail to Earth, as it is also a SIDEWAYS hit from swirling matter coming from this or that side.
(NancyL) ZT: Then there is the motion of a tail swirl being curled toward Earth, continuing the CURL.
(NancyL) ZT: Like a whip that curls around what it is thrown against, the tail can warp all AROUND the Earth during such a lick.
(NancyL) ZT: There are no parts of the globe that do NOT report red dust, frankly.
(NancyL) ZT: It is prehaps more extreme on those sides of the globe that will be facing the approach, but elsewhere is not exempt.
(NancyL) End ZT on this matter, followup?
(CMell) wouldn't the dust, if magnetic in nature, tend to be guided by the earths magnetic field ?
(N18) Will the tail look like 666?
(Phoenix) What about larger debris, is there any particular area of concentration or direction for these?
(BobS) Will this dust reach the dark side of earth before the cataclysms begin?
(GSw11) is the dust poisonous?
(NancyL) ZT to Phoenix: Debris follows the pattern of the tail, all being included in the dynamics.
(NancyL) ZT: Debris toward the END of a moon swirl that is curling toward the Earth and giving it a tail lick, so to speak, may be as massive and likely to cause damage as debris toward the Planet X portion of the tail.
(NancyL) ZT: Look to the planets in the Ecliptic, with the more MASSIVE at outer orbits.
(NancyL) ZT: The planets have their positions, their placement, for various reasons, and SIZE is not the determinant as to what is closest to the gravitations giant, the Sun.
(NancyL) ZT: In like manner, larger debris may in fact be trailing smaller, within a moon swirl trailing behind Planet X.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, all parts of the globe report debris, China as well as Egypt, in the past.
(NancyL) End ZT to Phoenix.
(Tcards) would there not be a larger amount of falling debris east to west on the long day side and west to east on the long night side?
(Phoenix) Thanks
(Smurr) Would the red dust be from a previous encounter with Mars and PX.
(BobS) Can we expect any small moons to crash into earth?
(NancyL) BobS, yes, dusting is a precursor, BEFORE the shift.
(QueenVee) NEXT QUESTION: The Zetas have stated that in human/hybrid intermarriage after the shift, offspring will be born in vitro (our term), "from the genetics of the parents, plus". Will the genetic "plus" be zetan only, or also human, or possibly from other species as well?
(NancyL) ZT to Tcards: Debris, as with red dust, may have a slight weight to the sides of the Earth facing the approaching Planet X complex, but from the standpoint of an individual worries about having a boulder land on his head, the odds are so CLOSE as to be statistically insignificant, as to which side of the Earth you are on.
(NancyL) End ZT to Tcards.
(NancyL) ZT to Smurr: The red dust cloud evolved as many planets in the solar system are heavy in this element, Mars, for instance.
(NancyL) ZT: There are portions of the Earth that exhibit a red clay soil, Australia and the Southeastern US, but this is not a NATIVE soil as much as an accumulation of deposits.
(NancyL) ZT: During the breakup of the Asteroid Belt, many planets that had this element, heavily, were pelted to pieces.
(NancyL) ZT: Molten lava spewed into space became the asteroids.
(NancyL) ZT: Iron ore is magnetically configured to pull OUT of any soup it is free to move within, and does so particularly in space.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, the dust, during poofing off into space during demolition derby's as Planet X and its complex of Moons moved through what is now the Asteroid Belt, MOVED, and became part of the Planet X tail.
(NancyL) ZT: Planet X, like a big magnet, swept through the area during the poofing phase, and emerged with a larger dust cloud, each time.
(NancyL) End ZT to Smurr.
(QueenVee) NEXT QUESTION: The Zetas have stated that in human/hybrid intermarriage after the shift, offspring will be born in vitro (our term), "from the genetics of the parents, plus". Will the genetic "plus" be zetan only, or also human, or possibly from other species as well?
(NancyL) BobS, the Z's have stated that no Moon collisions can be expected, they hug Planet X.
(NancyL) ZT: The hybrids today are a mix of DNA from their parents, Zetas, human ancestors in some instances, and reparative DNA where needed.
(NancyL) ZT: The hybrid child certainly has MAMY parents, in this regard.
(NancyL) ZT: Those Special Children who have been born among human society with Zeta genetics as well as human genetics are carried by the human parent.
(NancyL) ZT: However, the egg and sperm are mixed, in a test tube kind of setting, and then implanted back into the mother.
(NancyL) ZT: The necessary party here is the MOTHER, who can arrive on a space ship for a visitation, a visit to her GYN so to speak, with a ripe egg just released into her ovaduct due to what humans often call a "baby-maker" love making session, as well as sperm aplenty in her vagina.
(NancyL) ZT: The egg is removed, the sperm removed, the geneticists do their work and reimplant the fertilized egg.
(NancyL) ZT: In similar manner, in the Aftertime, the parents of a pending child having given the Call for their offspring to have the best life possible, the mother would be treated in this fashion after sex between the human parents.
(NancyL) ZT: At some point, when humans and hybrids are living together, intermarried, and the concept of large brainy hybrids as children is not foreign, incubation for the latter part of the pregnancy would NOT be in utero.
(NancyL) ZT: These are all matters subject to being delayed, or expedicted, depending upon the readiness of the humans involved.
(NancyL) End ZT on this matter, followup?
(Mindoid) wouldn't that create a discriminatory and hyper-competitive scenario such as what's depicted in the movie GATACA?
(Gyflex) what special attributes do those children born of human and zeta genetics portray that can be recognised today in our societies? people report that some children are born with a veil over their faces; is this a pointer to recognise these special kids?
(Didi) What percentage of the children born since 1980 have three DNA strands? What is the purpose?
(Thunderoc) Will service to other human populations continue to exist and flourish on other planets than earth after the shift? Question #2 considering Hybrids bodies have had thier curvey hips downsized ...was this nesasary and was this done with a 'leaning' towards Zeta visual desires?
(Bearz) Nancy, is this why so many new souls nowadays (Children) appear to be psychic and intuitive on Earth?
(JoeBeets) Years ago I visited the Caversn of Luray Virginia, and was struck by the fact that all the older formations were covered with a layer of red clay which had been deposited by water dripping down from the strata above. I thought of Velikovsky then.
(Smurr) thank you Nancy and ZT
(Phoenix) Fascinating, thank you!
(NancyL) Mondoid, STO are not hypercompetitive, quite the opposite.
(Obany) Didi: check special children in the hybrid section has been answered
(NancyL) Gyflex, Secial Children, as it states in the existing ZT, are NOT revealed for what they are by their parents.
(NancyL) They appear normal, for your purposes. Exceptional behavior is kept very secret, not talked about, by their parents.
(NancyL) And as to what those characteristics are, NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS!
(NancyL) Thunder, the Z's have stated that man as a pure strain man persist on Earth if the spirit incarnated desire this, but unlikely.
(NancyL) If existing at the shift, and scheduled to go to STS worlds, they MAY go as humans because the STS have such high infant mortality that they don't have bodies for all their STS spirits to inhabit.
(NancyL) They don't care for their babies, any more than for each other.
(NancyL) Thunder, the Hybrids are thin, yes, but due to Zeta DNA I suspect. And since birth will NOT be in utero for hybrids, why bother with child bearing hips?
(NancyL) Bearz, you cannot assume an intuitive child to be a Special Child, as they may just be incarnated with a strong spirit, etc.
(NancyL) Gyflex, born with a veil over their faces? No, this is not an indication.
(Obany) bearz: ../hybrids/h30.htm
(QueenVee) Nancy: ready for next question?
(NancyL) Gyflex, I will not entertain "no" to each of your questions re this, you are NOT to know the characteristics, and getting a "no" to each will help you define their characteristics.
(NancyL) Your are NOT to know!
(NancyL) Yes, Queen!
(QueenVee) PREAMBLE: According to interviewed firemen, the recent fires in the state of New South Wales in Australia showed an aggressive nature where the fires would burn bush and trees and then turn back on itself and reburn the same area again, but this time the aggressiveness of the fire made the fire turn again and burn in a forward direction again.
(Obany) and i agree Nancy ... about the special children
(QueenVee) QUESTION: Is this phenomenon (which the firemen said they had never seen before) in any way related to the earthchanges that are precipitating the passage of PlanetX? If so, does it provide a clue as to how fires may behave during and after the poleshift?
(NancyL) ZT: Many normal weather, disease, or animal behavior is noted during rapid change, and attributed to some exceptional cause.
(NancyL) ZT: This has occurred during the past few years in regard to weather, in a reverse fashion, as the establishment is quick to point out that at SOMETIME in the past there was such a drought, such a storm, or such a warm day in winter or a cold day in summer.
(NancyL) ZT: They are, in this, seeking to diminish the reaction among the populace that weather has gotten EXTREME, which it has, even within the memory of man.
(NancyL) ZT: Should patterns showing the switching about, from deluge to drought, or the extremes reached in both directions, this would NOT be a part of previously known patterns.
(NancyL) ZT: In illness, we are frequently asked if this or that seeming epidemic is manmade, or bio-terrorism, when it is just existing germs affecting those with reduced immune systems, or existing germs in NEW places, or unknown germs now becoming prominant.
(NancyL) ZT: Nevertheless, these germs are not NEW, even if unknown, and the increased illness is due to dropping immune systems, migrating germs, and opportunistic germs.
(NancyL) ZT: Animal behavior also has been noted as almost crazed, where animals normally passive and seeking to avoid confrontation will attack with provocation, or fly in the WRONG direction during migration.
(NancyL) ZT: This is due to signals the animals or insects get from the core of the Earth, signals NOT known to man, but nontheless there.
(NancyL) ZT: Spiders weaving webs to an extreme so that acres are covered under webs, get noted, but the base behavior is normal for a spider.
(NancyL) ZT: When earthquakes start to affect populated areas, they will be called rogue quakes, as they will occur in places NOT experiencing them previously, or occur in unusual manners.
(NancyL) ZT: Perhaps the quake will be a sudden and singular jolt, no precursors or aftershocks, or jolt UPWARD where the region usually experiences sideslip quakes.
(NancyL) ZT: This does not mean anything has changed, just that the familiar patterns is now NEW.
(NancyL) ZT: The Earth has experienced such prolonged doughts, in areas such as Australian and sub-Sahara Africa, that behavior unknown to the inhabitants may occur.
(NancyL) ZT: Rock, dried beyond dry, will crack or settle in manners not known to the residents.
(NancyL) ZT: Fires, where they start and normally flow forwards toward the source of fuel, may find all vegetation in its path SO dry that it burns HOT, driving the air AWAY from the fire in a draft.
(NancyL) ZT: Water logged soil may slide in areas not used to land slides, or even cause hillsides to move SIDEWAYS due to the lift that water tables can give it.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, we are telling you that just because a phenomea is unusual for an area, does NOT make it unusual for life on Earth in general!
(NancyL) ZT: Expect the unexpected!
(NancyL) End ZT on this matter, followup?
(QueenVee) great answer, nancy
(Thunderoc) The 'signals' which come from the core of the earth..Do these 'signals' , account for days which seem to affecting human moods as well? that our 'moods'may be under influence of outside cycles..and not nesasarily from ourselve's 'attitudes'?
(Mindoid) what is the nature of this signal the animals get from the earth, and at what point did man's ancestors lose their ability to use it?
(Bailey) Nancy, is the human sex drive being purged out of the hybrids or not?
(Bearz) NancNancy, is this the cause of whats become known as The "Quickening?"
(IdolHarobed) :)
(Obany) Baily: check the hybrid section in zetatalk ... it's answered
(QueenVee) just one more question, Nancy; tell me when you're ready for it
(NancyL) ZT to Thunder: Humans are also affected by the core eminations, but not to any degree that would be noted in the populace at large.
(NancyL) ZT: One affect is a decreased immune system, but this is to a LARGER extent cause by depression over changed events than core imanations.
(NancyL) ZT: A second effect manifests in being distracted, not thinking clearly, but this is to a LARGER extent caused by being subconsciously upset over the manner in which the establishment is addressing the problems, the coverups increasingly obvious.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, unlike spiders who weave acreas of webs, or migrating birds going in the wrong directions, there is little that is EVIDENT in man that can be accounted for as core eminations.
(NancyL) End ZT to Thunder.
(NancyL) Mindoid, too complex to answer.
(NancyL) Bailey, sex in hybrids same as in humans, this is in ZT in the Hybrids section.
(NancyL) Bearz, quickening is NOT any human phenomena, related to changing Earth, etc., in my opinion, and human reaction to this.
(NancyL) Quickening is NOT a ZT term, however, is an Art Bell term, I believe.
(NancyL) Queen, ready for last Q :-)
(QueenVee) PREAMBLE:
(QueenVee) EuroSETI recently announced that it will be publicly screening some extraordinary satellite images gleaned by a Spanish-based team using two space-based satellites, images that are distinctly "craft-like" in appearance, and which defy explanation....
(QueenVee) ...EuroSETI reports that NASA initially tried to explain the images away as pixel faults, passing meteors or asteroids, etc., but when a European-led consortium presented them with images that clearly were none of the aforementioned, they 'clamped up'.
(QueenVee) QUESTION: Are these genuine images of alien spacecraft? And if so, is their currently being situated near earth related to the upcoming passage of Planet X? Which alien race do they belong to?
(QueenVee) NANCY: you may want to take a moment to read this very short summary of the SETI announcement:
(NancyL) Spain has been too snug lately with the Bush Admin for me to believe this, frankly, lets see what the Z's say.
(NancyL) ZT: As with the Clonaid attention in major media, far outside the usual attention that alien hugging groups get, this is another example of various parts of the establishement hoping to open UP the Transformation to get more assistance from aliens.
(NancyL) ZT: There have been several competing and conflicting forces during the past few decades, since Roswell.
(NancyL) ZT: 1. the Hug-Humans thrust, which states that aliens are evil, cannot be trusted, are out to colonize the Earth and eat or enslave mankind, and that only by RESISTING visitations and hugging your governing bodies, your military, your church, will you be safe.
(NancyL) ZT: 2. the Hug-Aliens thrust, which states that the visitors are benign space brothers, here to help us during hard times, and if the Earth gets in a crunch such as a pole shift will lift all away to safety and some magical life on another planet or on a space ship.
(NancyL) ZT: 3. the Hug-Reality thrust, which points to past pole shifts or current problems such as starvation and disease that mankind deals with, no rescue there, and the LACK of a mass landing to colonize Earth, as evidence that neither 1 or 2 above are correct.
(NancyL) ZT: Enter the establishment, which is composed of the wealthy, powerful politicians, and church leaders, not all of whom are logical thinkers.
(NancyL) ZT: It was known that Reagan, while President, consulted a psychic, and the odd behavior of MANY notaries would astonish the populace should the truth be known.
(NancyL) ZT: Pressed to remain on Earth, no escape to Mars, and fearing their underground caverns NOT to be safe during violent earthquakes, the establishment is looking with horror toward the possibility of a pole shift.
(NancyL) ZT: Might they have to experience it, like the public they have mislead and used and had NO intention of informing?
(NancyL) ZT: Since the Earth changes have played out as we predicted, and the inbound planet is approaching in the manner and rate we predicted, many in the establishment are reading our words desperately for a way to AVOID what they were so happy to allow the general public to experience.
(NancyL) ZT: In other words, how can they ESCAPE!
(NancyL) ZT: In that we have stated that if 89% of the populace were STO, the Transformation to 4th Density physical could occur even before the shift, allowing an escape from the shift, this is one route.
(NancyL) ZT: However, how to force the some 50% of the populace to accept this philosophy, when guided by those in the establishment who can't even entertain the proper concepts?
(NancyL) ZT: Not feasible.
(NancyL) ZT: Another, more likely, scenario, is to have the populace ACCEPT the alien presence, embrace it, and thus with aliens walking about on the face of the Earth, ignoring the plight of mankind would be embarrassing and they'd step in and effect a rescue, or so the logic goes.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, you see groups 1, and 2 above, clashing. Clonaid gets on CNN, on Crossfire, where aliens have NEVER been the focus before.
(NancyL) ZT: Expect more entertainment as the shift approaches, from an increasingly desperate and shrill establishment.
(NancyL) End ZT on this, got to go! Another IRC starting in a few minutes!!!
(QueenVee) Okay, that's the hour, folks. ANOTHER GREAT SESSION, NANCY! THANK YOU!
(NancyL) Oh, forgot to answer the exact Q!
(Tcards) good session, thanks Nancy
(Airman) thanks for nothing
(Mindoid) if sex is the same and has the same potential outcome (pregnancy), than wouldn't it potentially be fatal in regions where technologically advanced medical care isn't available?
(Domicile) Thanks Nancy
(IdolHarobed) Mindoid: Since we got TV humans forgot to listen to their inner voice.
(Bearz) Nancy, If only we had George Burns... People would listen to him.. he was convincing as "God"
(azul) Spanish president, Mr. Aznar (Bushism: "Mr. Ansar"), is so snug with the Bush Admin that it smells.
(franci66) In a sense mankind must experience PS, just because is too slow in its evolution, maybe according the original plan we were supposed to be already STO?
(QueenVee) Nancy will conduct a second ZetaTalk Session in the #zetatalk channel in approximately 20 minutes. To get to that channel, simply type the following and hit enter: /join #zetatalk
(Mindoid) + in a hybrid situation
(Domicile) Thanks QueenVee
(Smurr) great session!
(NancyL) ZT: Images of space ships is not NEW, and NASA has endless images to access. A fight between tight allies, such as Spain and NASA are, is staged, with the intent that BOTH partices, 1, and 2, would be happey.
(NancyL) End ZT.
(NancyL) Bye all!
Session Close: Sat Jan 11 15:42:54 2003