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Live ZetaTalk Chat on Dec 29, 2001

Session Start: Sat Dec 29 15:42:53 2001
(Ivory) Nancy, i'd like to introduce myself, we spoke by email yesterday about my 3 yr old daughter and her friends the zetas
(Gerard) ivory ../beinghum/b21.htm and there is also something about special children on ZT which is something different then a starchild ../hybrids/h30.htm
(Ivory) Excellent, thank you both
(NancyL) I have some questions left over from last week, but they are kind of philosophical, and since I've been challenged in sci.astro to just go LIVE and not have an agenda, I've decided to do that now and then, like tonight.
(NancyL) Interesting week on sci.astro! It was a literal fist fight among many, as there were those who stated they had heard me on Sightings, etc. live, and there was no preplanning, etc.
(MikeAus) Oh dear
(Jos) That means we just ask questions?
(NancyL) The whole tone was emotional, overall, not scientific.
(Pleiadian) Hi Nancy
(MikeAus) Was that over the Kuiper Objects Nancy?
(Pleiadian) You know the vibration of the room shot up like 10 times
(MikeAus) ie. the photo?
(Pleiadian) Now that you're here lol
(NancyL) Plus, there was a woman on tt-watch who posted from New York City, saying she recently had a gut feeling about apocalyptic scenes coming soon.
(NancyL) Nothing more than gut feelings, coming to the fore, now.
(NancyL) And I got an e-mail from someone down under (Southern Hemisphere) who stated he had just found the ZT site, and understood why he had been doing what he had been for the past 30 years.
(NancyL) Planning for what ZT says is coming, and his family thinking him odd the whole time, and now it falls into place, etc.
(MikeAus) Yes, it's happening all over
(NancyL) So it was an emotional week, people dealing with the unknown, the sensed, change, etc.
(Butch) that is a common theme for a lot of us..:)
(NancyL) I hope Steve H and Matt B will allow me to push their questions forward to anther time. I'll group them into an evening where they fit, etc.
(S7L) I have similar thing though... Preparing and then things falling into place.
(MikeAus) Me also
(NancyL) Yes, Ivory, I remember :-) very special child.
(S7L) And I have heard from a number of people also similar things.
(DraganR) Everybody I know thinks that I am going nuts... and I am not sure my self LOL
(MikeAus) *L*
(Ivory) LOL yes she is Nancy.. She has to kiss your pic of the zeta goodnight, off your home page, now
(NancyL) MikeAus, Kuipier? No.
(MikeAus) Oh Ok..NP
(S7L) So, without agenda we can just random a bunch of questions then? Damn, what an opportunity and my mind's completely blank
(MikeAus) Nancy: may I ask what will happen to the Bigfoot/Sasquatch after the pole shift?
(MikeAus) ie. will they be transplanted?
(NancyL) Ivory, that pic was done by a genuine contactee, and that IS what they look like! Tiny nose, just as small as your little finger, straight up and down.
(Om_Aum_Amen) Same here, mind blank, body and mind under stress I guess, how do you dissolve the paralyze?
(Ivory) Nancy, why would zetas incarnate so close to the shift? doesn't that put them at a disadvantage to perform service?
(S7L) Iivory: I would think on the contrary, this gives the greatest possible moment of service and it's needed! :)
(Ivory) She's told me that Nancy, she says he's her Dr (her real Dr is a woman) and that she sees them all the time
(NancyL) We'll start early, might as well. Bigfoot/Sasquatch after the pole shift.
(MikeAus) Oh sorry Nancy... wasn't watching the clock :/
(NancyL) ZT: Bigfoot and other entities in 3rd Density will move WITH the Earth during transition to physical 4th Density along with humans, or move along to another world as transplants.
(NancyL) ZT: At present, Bigfoot and the Men in Black are in Transformation along with humans.
(MikeAus) Oh Ok, thankyou :)
(Pleiadian) Nancy:Why do I have permenant identity chrisis?
(NancyL) ZT: They were transplants to Earth originally, so being transplanted again would not be a shock to the old souls among them.
(NancyL) ZT: However, they WERE transplanted, originally, because they were deemed to be on the same level as mankind, and the Transformation at this date has been planned for a long time.
(S7L) Nancy, are there "2nd density souls"? That is, souls which are not self-aware but nevertheless evolving in animal/mineral kingdom even?
(Butch) Will MIB and sasquatch still be in quarantine or will there be interaction between the survivors and them?
(NancyL) ZT: Lest anyone should wonder how the Council would KNOW that this pole shift would be more devastating that others, a 90% dieoff, etc., to schedule the Transformation NOW.
(Quiksilver) My Z question: do the zetas think that Harrington was killed to silence him? Can they elaborate why it was a slow death by cancer versus something quick, also he was looking for PX near Aquarius not near Orion, when he died, can the Z's explain this? What about the reaction of van Flandern and others afterwards? Did they know?
(Gerard) Wait a moment guys until the answer is givven
(NancyL) ZT: There is more intelligence in the Universe than man can imagine, as he imagines HIS limitations. Thus, they could plan this, all those millenia ago, KNOWING this time would come about quite naturally.
(NancyL) End ZT
(MikeAus) Thanks Gerard
(Quiksilver) Sorry
(MikeAus) Thankyou :)
(NancyL) Ivory, I don't understand your question "Nancy, why would zetas incarnate so close to the shift? doesn't that put them at a disadvantage to perform service?"
(NancyL) Do you mean into Hybrids?
(Ivory) Well using my daughter as an example... She'll only be 4 at the time of the pole shift... Hard to survive or perform service... I'm guessing that is.
(NancyL) Pleiadian, that's a personal question.
(Pleiadian) None others are experiencing not knowing what they're here for?
(Ivory) She's an incarnated zeta as well as a contact the Z's said
(NancyL) S7L, the Zetas have said that planets, rocks, etc. do NOT have souls. Some animals do but only because a soul wishes the experience.
(NancyL) I knew a dog once I SWORE had a soul.
(S7L) Ok. I'm just trying to put together the rather consistent view I see at channelled material which tends to see everything as having a soul, even rivers (and planets) as "1st density" existence
(MikeAus) *S* me too
(NancyL) Harrington question ...
(NancyL) ZT: A favored method of assassination by the CIA is by disease. They prefer this over what might be termed a heart attack or stroke as it is less SUSPICIOUS.
(Om_Aum_Amen) Nancy, is there something like an "essence" pervading Everything, both beings and objects, an Essence that is eternal and unchanging
(Om_Aum_Amen) and Truth manifested?
(NancyL) ZT: The added advantage is that those in the know, who are aware of the subject's propensities and intent, are allowed to see suffering.
(Gerard) Om: wait please, until after the answer
(Gerard) :)
(Om_Aum_Amen) Ok :)
(NancyL) ZT: Harrington's activities were not altogether acurately reported, as he was indeed planning to sight and alert mankind to the approach of Planet X.
(NancyL) ZT: Seeing his suffering and what was an obvious, to them, assassination infection, his cohorts sang whatever tune the CIA wanted.
(NancyL) ZT: These infections can be seen in some CSETI individuals, in recent years, who were implanted with cancer also, and the brain tumor a Clinton democratic aid suffered from.
(NancyL) ZT: The horror is pointed to by those who would silence others. The rumored infection of Art Bell's son by AIDS no exception.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, those who claim that the truth has no enemies, and this suppression could not be occurring, are free to make these statements, as modern science supposedly does not KNOW how to infect with these elements.
(NancyL) ZT: Yet cancer metastasizes and grows in places not it's original host. Why is this means then so strange?
(NancyL) ZT: What lab has proved this NOT possible? It is, and is a regular bullet in the CIA's arsenal.
(NancyL) End ZT.
(NancyL) I'm going back to pick up questions. ...
(MikeAus) Pretty unpleasant stuff
(Quiksilver) So besides, van Flandern,only a few other's would know what really happened
(NancyL) Ivory's questions ... Led by Children (my grandaughter included) :-)
(Ivory) Ahhhh
(Ivory) Man it's gonna be hard convincing my husband to listen to her when the shift is going on *sigh*
(NancyL) ZT: Many children are being born at this time, quite young to face the cataclysms that will occur before they reach their teens, much less adulthood.
(NancyL) ZT: Why would this be the plan, when such children would likely be in shock, neglected, and unable to LEAD, certainly.
(NancyL) ZT: These special children are in a OPTIMAL position to lead, contrary to mankinds understanding.
(NancyL) ZT: Why would this be so? Children, souls incarnating into the young, are without the burden that human adults have assumed, of preconcieved notions and the societal need to conform.
(NancyL) ZT: They are open, and comment upon what they see as reality, NOT with the suppression that society imposes and which becomes automatic and adopted by adults who must function in society.
(NancyL) ZT: Likewise, these children have stamina and health, as in truth the human body is strongest PRIOR to the age of 20 or so, and declines afterwards.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, survival groups, stunned by what has happened and in despair over being abandoned and lied to by their governments.
(NancyL) ZT: In shock over the adjustments to their prior lifestyle, and depressed over the adjustments that must be made.
(NancyL) ZT: Will be LED by these children, who will see resources and avenues NOT apparent to their parents and caretakers.
(NancyL) ZT: They will find each other, and communicate, and create bonds between groups that the adults would not think posible.
(NancyL) ZT: They will be the visionaries of the future, among human survival groups, to a degree that would stun their parents now.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, led by a child is a phrase that will become a reality in the near future.
(NancyL) End ZT
(S7L) How could the parents be like those children? How can we here best work as this type of bridges?
(NancyL) Going back to pick up questions ...
(S7L) Ok.
(Ivory) Thank you Nancy and the zetas
(NancyL) S7L, your question was WHY do other channels state that rivers and rocks can have souls, etc.
(Quiksilver) Yeah thanks, I wish someone besides Neil Freer would offer any more info on Harrington...
(S7L) Nancy: yes, what do they mean by it
(NancyL) ZT: Many who claim to be speaking from special sources are simply making poetry.
(CyberVViz) Poetry is often the language of the soul
(NancyL) ZT: Primitive man worshiped the Sun, as it gave life, and the Moon, as it also gave light at night, and the wind and waters, ascribing spirits to them as they MOVED.
(CyberVViz) You see :-), like you guys
(NancyL) ZT; and had power. This simple view of the Universe lives today, in fokelore and what is claimed to be true channels.
(NancyL) ZT: But if the stuff of souls could congeal in inanimate things, then why would there be ANYTHING left to conceal in evolved conscious beings?
(NancyL) ZT: The stuff of souls would be gathered into planets and wind, rocks and water, for whatever reason imaged by these fanciful tales.
(NancyL) ZT: And consciousness, the ability to CREATE, to DECIDE, which cold matter and wind and water do NOT have, would go wanting and be the lessor.
(NancyL) ZT: This is simply not the case, as just as you find other humans MORE interesting and challenging, less restful than a walk along the beach, just so the stuff of souls finds rocks and wind boring.
(NancyL) End ZT
(Jos) Ppl who are currently unsparked, have therefore not really a individualized soul, are they part of a group-consiousness that encompasses the unsparked humanity?
(NancyL) Going back to pick up questions ...
(S7L) This is probably foolish but ... So how "much" is there of this stuff of the souls? Is there a limit to how many souls may exist, for instance?
(S7L) I and Jos had discussions about this, that is why the issue is up here because we couldn't resolve it very well.
(Jos) Are there differences between alien "races" about these matters (opinions), especially between higher and lesser density groups, perhaps caused by their different amounts of data/experience etc?
(CyberVViz) :-)
(NancyL) Jos, and group consciousness in the "unsparked".
(Longint) What adventage one can take from gaining spiritual knowledge? Why to explore these territories? Is this not against the Rule of Forgetfulness?
(David) Native American,shamans etc are saying they are communicating with animal spirits, spirit of trees etc - what can Zetas say about that?
(NancyL) ZT: Humans who have what we have termed virgin souls, those first congealing in the consciousness of the human, are no less able to communicate with other souls than old souls.
(NancyL) ZT: The issue is not their ability, as a virgin soul, but for want of a better term, their WEIGHT and MASS.
(NancyL) ZT: Old souls have an equivalent of the human brain's tendrils, connections, and number of brain cells.
(NancyL) ZT: They live on because of this, the complexity of interactions and memories that hold the soul together.
(S7L) Mmm
(NancyL) ZT: Young souls that dissapate because of lack of what we have termed a spark, have few connections, few substantial memories that CREATE connections, and thus there is in essense nothing THERE.
(NancyL) ZT: However, during the lifetime of this virgin incarnation, the soul that IS there can communicate with other souls, and thus is part of what is commonly termed the collective subconscious.
(Om_Aum_Amen) What happens technically to the soul when a being is enlightened/liberated/reaches Nirvana?
(NancyL) ZT: They, however, ask more questions than give answers, and have few insights, so are more the receivers than the transmitters.
(NancyL) End ZT
(Mlistman) Zetas and Humans are obviously different in the incarnated state, are we equals at a soul level?
(NancyL) Going back ,etc, to collect questions.
(NancyL) S7L re being a good follower of the children, my personal observation is that one need only allow oneself to be led. THEY will collect you and direct you :-).
(NancyL) Try to STOP them :-)
(Om_Aum_Amen) What happens technically to the soul when a being is enlightened/liberated/reaches Nirvana?
(S7L) Hehe, okay :)
(NancyL) S7L's question on stuff of souls.
(NancyL) ZT: The stuff of souls is something of a mystery to we, the Zetas, and we cannot entirely answer the question.
(NancyL) ZT: We have been told the process of soul building, and participate in being Spirit Guides and Brithing Envoys
(NancyL) ZT: We have experienced our own incarnations, and in many cases become very aware of our past lives.
(NancyL) ZT: Yet there are mysteries NOT explained or answered to us in 4th Density, for whatever reason God's plan entails.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, the base question of WHY God has chosen to create the Universe, or have it operate as it does, is not ours to answer.
(NancyL) End ZT.
(S7L) I thank the Zetas. I'm struggling to trying to understand how soul relates to matter and how is it constituted etc. but it seems to be a fascinating and big mystery for a while yet, so to speak.
(NancyL) Jos asked about differences between alien races, based on experiences in the past, etc.
(Jos) :)
(S7L) How can the soul influence the brain? Why is the meditative state more receptive? The Zetas said something about the brain being structured so that humans can't see for instance aliens while animals can. Are these related?
(Gabe) the Oahpse appears to explain incarnations, 3rd vs. 4th density, high-raised souls, and the general workings of the universe... Do the zetas recommend Oahspe?
(CyberVViz) My opinion is clearly that each soul has the same age, but only 'the moment' he was injected in the material world 'times' his youth, like you have the number i in the formula y=squareroot(). the function goes further in the irreal number zone (non-manifest plane).
(NancyL) ZT: The world in which an entity evolves upon DOES made an imprint on the entity, that has a strong but not dominant effect on it's future.
(NancyL) ZT: This is an easy concept for mankind to relate to, as the culture that they come from determines their outlook, how they interact with others, and the restrictions they impose upon themselves.
(NancyL) ZT: However, just as humans find they become citizens of the WORLD during travel, or living and working abroad, just so souls incarnating into other lifeforms find they have a common bond and base with other souls.
(NancyL) ZT: Evolution into higher spiritual densities is akin to world travel, in the human experience, a rich tapestry of encounters with fascinating cultures and attitudes.
(NancyL) ZT: Each learns from the other, and grows.
(NancyL) ZT: And evenutally, the experiences of ALL are the experiences of EACH.
(NancyL) ZT: Where is is leading is part of God's plan, and not something we can speak to with experience or knowledge.
(NancyL) End ZT
(NancyL) Going back, etc.
(MikeAus) If a soul sparks strongly, can it fade out during an idle period?
(MikeAus) or can it then re-spark?
(NancyL) Long's questions re Rule of Forgetfulness.
(NancyL) ZT: The Rule of Forgetfulness is a growth aid, NOT a long term rule.
(NancyL) ZT: During early incarnations, the young soul is given the BEST opportunity for growth by being given a virgin field each incarnation.
(NancyL) ZT: Should they have made a mistake in a past life, they are not burdened by guilt.
(NancyL) ZT: Should they be angry about something visited upon them in a past life, they are not burdened by anger.
(NancyL) ZT: They can approach situations they mis-handled in past lives AFRESH, and make them go right this time.
(NancyL) ZT: However, at a certain point, after many thousands of incarnations, the young spirit has HAD its chances.
(NancyL) ZT: It has revisited, or re-experienced, these situations repeately, and is starting to form patterns.
(NancyL) ZT: The Birthing Guides help in this matter, providing incarnation that challenge any sticking points the young soul has.
(NancyL) ZT: However, souls have their leanings, and inclinations, and paths they prefer to follow, just as humans become stuck in their ways.
(NancyL) ZT: And when this has become apparent, the Birthing Guides move into using these inclinations for the better good of all, rather than just repeating patterns.
(NancyL) End ZT
(NancyL) Going back ,etc ....
(Ivory) Nancy, Mike_Valley asked me to help him phrase and ask this question: When did the special children start incarnating on Earth? Have they always incarnated to do service and if so, are there more because of the pole shift?
(Jos) Can you tell us some physical stuff about your saucers and where you have been, what you encountered there
(Boris) Is it possible to remember some part of past lives, with the help of hypnosis for example?
(NancyL) David's question on Native American Shamans, etc.
(NancyL) ZT: Many who claim to be speaking to the wind, or animals, or rocks, and genuinely believe this is so, are simply giving a spirit they cannot SEE a name and source.
(NancyL) ZT: Just as in the Bible, Moses was speaking to a burning bush, which was anything but that, as those who would be reading his writing could not comprehend anything else.
(NancyL) ZT: Humans sensing a spirit in the vicinity are often at a loss to explain what they are sensing.
(NancyL) ZT: They refer to vibes, or a presence, or an intensity.
(NancyL) ZT: Nothing can be captured on camera, or grabbed and put in a box for later examination.
(NancyL) ZT: Spirits communicating with a group, such as a Native American tribe, will often go with the flow, and allow whomever is communicating to ASSUME this presence.
(NancyL) ZT: It is possible to influence the direction a bird flies, easily, as the reason for flying in this or that direction are few and can be staged for the benefit of the bird.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, a Shaman who thinks the bird has a spirit, and finds it flying in pattens that would indicate that, is none the wiser.
(NancyL) End ZT
(Jurian) Something I've always wondered.. the Zeta's will help us during our shift to 4th densitiy, does this always require a higher density (group of) beings to occur, or does it happen naturally at some point? If it requires 'interference' by a higher density, how was the first race 'lifted' to 4th density? :-)
(DraganR) Did human soul ever reach 4th Density prior to this time PS and if so, do they remember past lifes ?
(NancyL) Going back ...
(Ivory) Nancy, are the apparitiions of Mary (example Fatima and Garadandal) accompanying prophecies real or are they perhaps technologically created (like holograms) to get a message across?
(Svnmn) Thank you for that last answer! Very helpful and comforting.
(NancyL) M Listman asked about equality among souls, 3rd and 4th Density, etc.
(NancyL) ZT: Just as you will find yourself, more often than NOT, being lead by a child, just so young souls often have the insights and courage that older souls LACK.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, among those who have chosen the STO path, there is no elitism.
(NancyL) End ZT
(NancyL) Going back ...
(Quiksilver) The war on terror, in Afghanistan, Bush saying that 2002 is a "war year" - any comments?
(NancyL) Nirvana queston ...
(Jos) There are few crop-circles recently, will they increase in 2002?
(NancyL) ZT: The Hindu speak of a state, the GOAL of living, called Nirvana.
(NancyL) ZT: They attempt to reach this via meditation, and correct living, many incarnations.
(NancyL) ZT: They attempt to reach high levels of communication with others, as an adjunct to this state.
(NancyL) ZT: What they are seeking is termed living in light form, or the spirit only, not requiring incarnations.
(NancyL) ZT: Incarnations are a learning experience, but spirits grow beyond the need for this, in both the STO and STS orientations.
(NancyL) ZT: Incarnations are then used as a learning experience, or a tool, for these spirits.
(NancyL) End ZT
(NancyL) Going back ...
(Longint) Could the Zetas give a more precise timepoint to the starting of the satellite failures?
(S7L) 32b, that's on my mind also
(Jos) Can the Zeta make some more predictions we can check
(NancyL) S7L re souls influencing brain, meditation, etc.
(S7L) Yes.
(NancyL) ZT: The soul infuses the body during an incarnation, and communicates on many levels and can bridge densities in this matter.
(Om_Aum_Amen) Thanks
(NancyL) ZT: The stuff of souls is NOT something we, the Zetas, have experimented with, nor are we allowed to!
(Jurian) Obviously, I guess :)
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, beyond describing the properties and capacities of the stuff of souls, we cannot explain HOW it manages this.
(NancyL) ZT: But it influences the body, to overcome disease and struggle forward.
(Mike_Valley) Nancy the case of Travis Walton in 1975 is true?
(NancyL) ZT: It influences the brain, to utilize this or that portion of the brain or to develop channels and connections in the brain matter.
(NancyL) ZT: The will to live has been well documented, overcoming disease that physicians were SURE would end the life.
(NancyL) ZT: Much of this is the soul, determined not to end the incarnation.
(NancyL) ZT: Likewise, the soul can influence a dying body to go before its time, if the incarnation is desired to end.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, we suggest those curious about how the soul influences the body simply OBSEVE the many clues about them, as this is as much a tool for learning as anything we can explain.
(NancyL) End ZT
(Gabe) The oahspe claims that the human 'heavens' are physically located above the earth, and partitioned into plateux. Does this fit with the zetan understanding?
(S7L) Can the soul cause a "miracle healing", such as healing of broken limb, as Jesus is rumoured to have been capable of? A healing in time span of a few hours to a few days? Just how far can it go?
(Quiksilver) Travis walton: ../awaken/a58.htm
(SteveH) Can a soul ever lose any of it's mass through any experience incarnate or disincarnate?
(Mike_Valley) +Quiksilver tks
(NancyL) Gabe asked about Oashpe ..
(NancyL) ZT: The Oashpe is a rich book, a genuine channeled work, we heartily recommend.
(NancyL) ZT: As with the Book of Ra, it can be difficult to understand, and is subject to many interpretations.
(NancyL) ZT: The best advice we can give no this matter is to read with your HEART as well as your mind.
(NancyL) ZT: Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind.
(NancyL) ZT: Treat this as a garden you are walking throught for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it!
(NancyL) ZT: Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later.
(NancyL) ZT: If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain.
(NancyL) ZT: Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.
(NancyL) End ZT
(Spotk2) Why the name "Oashpe"? Every name has some meaning to someone.
(NancyL) Going back ..
(Gabe) Spotk2: oahspe means 'earth, sky, spirit'
(Jos) The Oasphe talks about billions being harvested every few thousand years, Ra talks about that Earth has only produced 150 entities in the last 25.000 year "cycle", which was the third and this is the last or something, any insight's?
(Jos) I guess that's meant by "categorization", why can't we do this, isn't that asking "please, don't use your brain"?
(NancyL) Ivory's rephasing about special children ...
(NancyL) ZT: Special Children are on the increase at this time, though as the life of Jesus exemplifies, not a recent phenomena.
(Jos) Correction "which was the /second/", sorry.
(S7L) Jos: it's a fancy way of saying that don't take oahspe literally ... ;p
(Jos) Not fancy enough for me ;)
(NancyL) ZT: They are on the increase now, to serve as during the shift, when MOST of humanity will be stunned and hurting and the lack of leadership crying for natural leaders to step forward.
(NancyL) ZT: Of course, the children will not be the ONLY ones leading, as there are many natural leaders among the adults!
(NancyL) ZT: But the relative youth allows them more flexibility. Not the least of which is that adults may RESIST other adults, getting into posturing, but will take a child's suggestion as just that.
(NancyL) ZT: Children have ways of influencing their elders which the elders scarsely take note of, but an anaylsis of the process shows that the CHILD is LEADING.
(NancyL) End ZT
(NancyL) Going back ...
(Ivory) Thank you from me and Mike_Valley
(DraganR) Did human soul ever reach 4th density prior to this time and if so , do they remember past lifes?
(CyberVViz) The indigo planet
(NancyL) Jos, I've been on a lot of ships, some of which is in the transcipts on the web site (Customs, First Meeting, etc.)
(NancyL) Question about meditation and past lives.
(Jos) Cool!
(NancyL) ZT: Past lives are most often remembered by subtle message the soul gives to the current incarnation, the body.
(NancyL) ZT: If the soul is strongly into integrating, fixing past mistakes, it may be FIRM during these messages, so the human has no rest until they are in sync and with the program.
(NancyL) ZT: It is during such incarnation that humans report they have uncovered past lives.
(NancyL) ZT: But unless such a situation exists, mediating and begging the soul to play out in full color and sound and fury the interesting past lives is NOT honored.
(NancyL) ZT: The soul considers this idle curiosity on the part of the human, who is treated NOT as an equal during incarnation.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, such attempts, where not called for, are futile.
(NancyL) End ZT
(NancyL) Quicksilver on 2002 war year.
(NancyL) ZT: Saber rattling on the part of the Bush administration, in response to the 911 events, should be viewed in light of the economic problems which were developing BEFORE 911 occurred.
(NancyL) ZT: The recession, which this administration choses to state started only BECAUSE of 911, in fact was in process as soon as Bush sole the White House.
(NancyL) ZT: This is a common ploy, among those assigning themselves leadership in countries, to point to WAR and threats from the outside.
(NancyL) ZT: War is not going to be profitable, for anyone, other than as a threat, so we suspect this is where the issue will remain.
(NancyL) End ZT.
(NancyL) Well folks, the hour has passed.
(NancyL) Have I missed any biggies?
(Ivory) Thx Nancy, it was really interesting!
(bobope) Thank you!
(MikeAus) Thanks :)
(Gabe) Thanks nancy/zetas...
(Boris) thanks
(S7L) I thank you, Nancy. No, nothing very important on my part at least :)
(DraganR) Bye N
(Svnmn) I liked this session the best so far! Thanks!
(NancyL) Dragon, there are humans who are incarnated Star Children, so yes, they are from beyond 4th Density, etc.
(Quiksilver) thanks!!
(Gerard) It was a good session Thanks Nancy and the Zetas :)
(S7L) I tend to think an agenda is more beneficial though.
(NancyL) Boy, an obsession with the soul, etc!
(MikeAus) *L*
(MikeAus) Yup
(Om_Aum_Amen) Tthanks
(Jurian) Heh, yeah :)
(SteveH) Thanks Nancy and Zeta's!
(DraganR) Thanks Nancy
(NancyL) See you all next week, if our loyal IRC cops and technicians continue to be up to it!
(Svnmn) All of my biggest questions are about the soul, but I did not know how to ask them. Thanks again!
(NancyL) Thanks to them, the real heroes here!
(Jos) Bye Nancy
(S7L) Heh.
(NancyL) Bye bye!
Session Close: Sat Dec 29 17:11:53 2001