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Live ZetaTalk Chat on Aug 24, 2002

Session Start: Sat Aug 24 16:39:25 2002
(Grimbot) Welcome and g'day to you Nancy and the Zetas!
(NancyL) G'Day to you, Grimbot.
(Matt) Oh dear a bot greeting
(Endeavour3d) Woohoo! Just in time
(NancyL) I have a full agenda today, will post for the early birds ...
(S7L) Bot greets the zetas. There is something almost symmetric right there.
(N) Will there come also some "ZT" about the next topics:
(N) 1. the murder on Pim Fortuyn (dutch politician)
(N) 2. the Ramala books ( )
(N) 3. medium JOMANDA ( )
(N) 4. photo of hybrid
(Orion) Question: Can the zetas explain why Mugabe is ruining zimbabwe by starving his own people and taking farms away from the white farmers?
(NancyL) 1. Is the sun's magnetic field blocking the effect of PX's magnetic field on earth when it is behind the sun? The above question was posed b(Dsf231) last week (Aug 17) but there was no answer and it was exactly the same question I had been pondering.
(RudyJoe) I still say we are going to evolve our own Savior, Messiah, Christ, or whatever you want to call it. I guarantee it. We will evolve a Christ, and when we go we are going to be coming after you...
(Matt) Robot greets robot
(NancyL) 1. What is behind the new slant on the site "Don't believe the hype! Planet X returns in 2003! This is not true! Show me the proof!" and the audio statement by Zecharia Sitchin on that site that Planet X will not return in 2003?
(Jeremy) Nancy: Have you read that astronomers have recently noticed that the surface of Pluto appears to be getting warmer while the atmosphere has cooled significantly. This is occurring at a time when Pluto is moving further away from the Sun in its orbit. Possibly an effect of PX?
(Ummite) if you want some good explanation go there it is a good url
(Matt) Thats what Sitchin said alright
(Trin) :)
(Endeavour3d) Nancy, there have been reports about strange lights attacking people injuring many and killing some in India, what do the Zetas have to say about this?
(Orion) Question: Can the zetas explain why Mugabe is ruining zimbabwe by starving his own people and taking farms away from the white farmers?
(Endeavour3d) The same reason why many dictators do such things
(Matt) Madness
(Endeavour3d) And power hungry
(S7L) Not madness. Do not trivialize the dictators.
(Matt) Hard to say
(RibotOfMiranda) Are the aliens religious?
(NancyL) 2. On sci.astro someone posted a link to a NASA Kid Story titled "The 10 planets of our solar system, including Nibiru (planet of the passing)" Was this just a submitting by a concerned child or was it an intentional write-up by someone in NASA?
(NancyL) 3. is now officially debunking Planet X destroying earth in 2003! It seems like everyone is trying to get a piece of the action saying it isn't coming next year :-)
(NancyL) 1. This Oleg from Russia says the Norlok space probe from Russia took these photos of Planet "X" and that Zetas are accurate. Is this a disinformation hoax, or was there a real Norlok probe?
(Howmo) What about Nancy Lieder saying, falsely, that PX cannot be seen due to "light pollution"?
(NancyL) 1. Although I understand that whether we experience 3 days of night or day just before the Shift depends on where one is situated on the globe, the Bible and many Christian seers of this last century talk exclusively of 3 days of intense darkness. As all the ancient prophesis of many cultures agree on so many points is there any likelihood of the globe stopping so most people experience "night" and if so would this affect the continents movements and ultimate positions? Many of my Christian friends ask this question or a varient of it.
(NancyL) 2. Revelations text from the Bible has been added to the Prophecy TOPIC in Troubled Timesay.
(NancyL) Jeremy, re Pluto, possibly ...
(NancyL) Endeavour, this was addressed last week. They are NOT alien, but human actions and human hysteria. Aliens are not allowed to harm people, period.
(Trin) Ummm..... if they follow the rules anyway
(Endeavour3d) Actually, I wasn't thinking aliens ;)
(Trin) Aliens harm humans all the time... though some say a psychic permision must be given
(NancyL) Orion, re Mugabe, he stated he was turning the land back to his people, a voter promise, no?
(Orion) Thanks
(NancyL) Orion, or do you buy that the white man feeds his people, most likely a white claim.
(Endeavour3d) When I say UFOs, I mean UFO as the term was originally made for, and unidentified Flying Object
(Sparksilent) Nancy? Have you ever spoken with, or written to Sitchen?
(Howmo) Nancy, your coordinates are quite visible. Where is it?
(NancyL) Ribot, as religious as you, I'm sure, but the STO not given to silly rituals, if this is what you mean. This is in the Worlds section of ZT.
(Trin) Grin. Is touching allowed?
(NancyL) Howmo, what about YOUR predictions that have come true? What are those, Howmo, and why should we listen to YOU?
(Zetapal) Indeed
(Trin) This is my first time at one of these.. I am interested to see how Nancy is as a person
(Howmo) Hehe ... What a dodge....!
(Redeye) Ha ha
(Obany) If one has problems with someone there is /ingnore nickname
(Howmo) Nancy, what predictions of YOURS have come true?
(NancyL) Trin, aliens hurt people? Proof? Implants are not "harm", nor collecting eggs either.
(RudyJoe) Howmo has made his point, I think he should move on to other questions.
(SteveH) Howmo, wait until next month when the coordinates come out...
(Howmo) Certainly NOT imaging...
(NancyL) Spark, no, Sitchen and I have not chatted.
(Zeta) Listen to US, the real zeta's!
(Piet) Nancy, you should check out
(Trin) So that is US gov testing on villagers then, not aliens?
(Ummite) Yes
(Cmel) Lets get practical, how do we navigate in the aftertime? When does the magnetic field stabilize, because I need that field to orientate myself, and people will have to (to some degree) migrate in the aftertime?
(Cosmic) Lo RibotOfMiranda
(NancyL) Trin, nice if you are STO, gloves off if youre agenda is otherwise.
(Howmo) Steve, been waiting.... for YEARS now....
(Trin) Im nting. Im just me..
(RibotOfMiranda) NancyL do you know me in particular? As I'm not religious nor not religious. and are you saying that rituals are bogus?
(Trin) Regualr ole being
(RibotOfMiranda) Lo cos
(Trin) No adjenda
(Piet) Much more convincing than your site!
(NancyL) Cmel, there is a Bearings TOPIC in TT that is excellent. Info section of TT.
(RudyJoe) Cmel, read a good book on OBE.
(Cmel) K nancy
(NancyL) Ribot, you are an advocate of rituals?
(Howmo) Nancy, please DO go on about how you predicted the position of PX and it's MOVEMENT!
(Piet) Yet, much of it is the same.
(Trin) Howmo can I ask you why you are so confrontational?
(Cosmic) NancyL, do aliens dream when they are asleep?
(Trin) Is it your job?
(Howmo) Sorry, but there was NOTHING in the images.
(Longint) Nancy, how do the Zetas estimate, of the survivors how much percent will get alien help, I mean to get power supply, etc?
(NancyL) Piet is another one, has NOTHING to offer but is here throwing tomatoes. Your prediction accuracy track record, Piet?
(Cosmic) Lo GovernmentAgent
(RibotOfMiranda) Yes NancyL
(Obany) Howmo: please... don't start with that again, don't ask the same thing over and over again
(NancyL) Cosmic, they don't sleep.
(Cmel) But when does the magnetic field stabilize, after the shift ??
(Ummite) There existe some true UFO viewing but the army have done more test than the real UFO apparition
(RibotOfMiranda) NancyL is the opinion that rituals are silly yours or the aliens'?
(Stphrz) I was unaware Piet made any predictions to defend...
(NancyL) Howmo, there is nothing between your ears :-). Round noise, that moved :-).
(Endeavour3d) Wait until mid September or maybe October before you come back abotu sightings Howmo
(Stphrz) Same with howmo
(Cmel) Haha
(Trin) Rituals are a powerfull means by which a human can harness the universal energy to do its bidding
(Howmo) Ah yes.... ridicule. when you can't answer questions.
(Piet) I don't get as much critism as you.
(Obany) There is always /ignore
(Curious) Just want to say hi Nancy, love the Zeta site!
(Trin) Rituals are nothing more than a tool to focus spiritual mana if you will
(NancyL) Obany, we are going to bounce Howmo and Piet if this is all they can do. Cat callers have been heard, have stated their piece, and when they restate the same thing over and over again, then the purpose is obvious.
(Piet) I only want the facts straight
(Howmo) Ummmm MID 2002, remember?
(Cmel) But when does the magnetic field stabilize, after the shift?
(Ummite) The true service to other are also existing it is the Scientology
(Howmo) Yawn)... What a bore... I'm out....
(NancyL) They are just making noise to disrupt other Q&A.
(Nostrada) NancyL, given the size and gravity of PX, wouldn't earths orbit around the sun be altered, other than the polar shift? And what effects will this have?
(NancyL) Obany, not /ignore, ban for the hour, please.
(Endeavour3d) Mid does not exactly mean June
(Zeta) We the zeta's dislike noise!
(RudyJoe) Howmo is just another nasty English spy.
(Stphrz) Heh
(NancyL) Piet, you can't recognize a straight fact when you see it, so why be here? Go have a beer and bugger off!
(Trin) He's no spie
(Redeye) what makes u think he's British
(Stphrz) Whoa
(Trin) Hes just a guy who .. like can't accept reality
(Silk) Wow
(Redeye) ?
(Cmel) But when does the magnetic field stabilize, after the shift?
(RudyJoe) 007.5
(Piet) Healthy critism induce good arguments
(Endeavour3d) G2g now, I'll read the IRC log, cya
(Stphrz) Cmel 10 days
(Redeye) Oh right, yes
(Stphrz) Ok
(PJ) Yes..howmo is stomping his feet like a kindergardener would when he doesn't like what he hears
(NancyL) Cmel, I suspect it will take a long time. Quick answer from the Z's now ..
(Stphrz) ;)
(Trin) See... if you proved that every Chistian was being taught lies from the start.. they would all lash out at you like Howmo
(Cmel) K Nancy
(NancyL) ZT: Look to the degree that the Earth's magnetism has been disturbed NOW, when stable for thousands of years.
(Trin) If you told the WHY they were being lied to they would be even madder at you... because you have essentaly destroyed their eblife system.. and they will die to protect the illusion they live usnder
(Zetapal) Zeta get your own chatshow and see who comes, don't lay claim to the efforts of others
(Trin) Fear is the driving factor behind their actions
(Samsara2003) Nancy - any comment on the zetas as to whether or not the solar activity now being seen in the sun has anything to do with PX approach?
(Stphrz) Shut up Trin
(NancyL) ZT: Put upon the distruption NOW a core that turns completely, must realign, and consider that many parts of the core will be slowly finding their place in the mush.
(Sparksilent) Fear also makes people believe in zetatalk
(Piet) I belief in PS, but not Zetas
(Jurian) NancyL: no offense, but if you really care about zetatalk, and helping humanity, you'll need to change your attitude. Lately, all you seem to do, is insult people whom disagree with your views. That's a pretty nasty habit.
(Clairvoyant) PS?
(Ancalag0n) Hey Zpal =D
(Antigona) Ok, where's the boys
(Stphrz) Me!
(NancyL) ZT: This equates to several decades of an erratic magnetic field, and by this time, any groups of mankind left will have switched to other means than compasses.
(NancyL) End ZT to CMEL.
(Trin) Yea..
(Zetapal) Jurian - the attitude police, thanks Jurian
(CptJ) Hi Nancy I loved your Art Bell show a while back :)
(Trin) I think the pressure is getting to Nancy... there is much force lined up against her now
(Stphrz) Here we go
(Cmel) Thx Nancy and ZT
(Trin) Many do not want her to exist
(Jeremy) Nancy: Could the Zetas provide their own distance timetable for PX to us, or would that contravene any rules they abide by?
(RibotOfMiranda) NancyL what does it mean aliens are not allowed to harm humans? Are you saying it's not one bit harmful what they're doing to you?
(NancyL) Samsara, the Z's have said that the Sun cares NOT about PX passage or approach.
(Stphrz) Untrue trin
(Jurian) Trin: I have no problem with Nancy, at all, just the way her attitude lately is discrediting the message she's trying to put out.
(NancyL) However, it has been clear some years ago that NASA intended to use the Sun as an excuse. So, they are "reporting" what they intended to report, at this time.
(Piet) The sun will cause PS
(Trin) Really she is very brace to do what she does publicly under her ture identity, as she does, brave even
(PJ) Trin dont be ridiculous
(NancyL) I suspect zero truth behind anything they say, frankly.
(Trin) I hear you Jurian
(Samsara2003) Any comments on the Channel Sollog by the zetas (
(RudyJoe) We can't trust NASA.
(Kiril) Question for NancyL: Pleas Help abaut Safe location of Bulgaria
(Cosmic) Lo Antigona
(Redeye) Jurian, u contradict yourself
(Antigona) Ah you there too darling
(Cosmic) :) Here there and everywhere
(Nostrada) NancyL, given the size and gravity of PX, wouldn't earths orbit around the sun be altered, other than the polar shift? And what effects will this have? Will earths orbit become further out of the sun?
(NancyL) Jeremy, they have their reasons for relying on human distance measures. They explained WHAT the differences are, that it zooms in faster, then slows more while going past the Sun, etc.
(Jurian) Redeye: not really
(Trin) Ribot... what the aliens do is.. essentaily trick you into surrendering your will.. to do experiements on you ..
(CptJ) How big is PX suppose to be as compared to earth?
(Antigona) Wheres rib?
(Cmel) Time is up
(RibotOfMiranda) Here
(Piet) 4x
(Trin) Gather eggs. and implants are done... by tricking the human into thinking its ok...
(Antigona) Ah
(NancyL) Jeremy, the Z's are very skilled at playing games with humans that would disinfo you to death. Often a stumble is a deliberate bait and switch.
(CptJ) Wow huge
(Trin) Human are very gullable if you hadn't noticed
(Stphrz) Har
(Antigona) Im not used to be Antigona
(Guyflex) At what speed is PX moving now?
(Jurian) In other words, the zeta's murder people who spread disinfo
(Piet) 23 times as dense
(Cmel) Nope
(Jurian) So much for not getting involved
(NancyL) I've seen this so often as to recognize a game plan when it evolves. Refusing to give THEIR maths re distance and size has all the signs ...
(Cmel) Joint
(PJ) Yes Nancy ..that is what Howmo does not understand
(MikeO) As for NASA using the sun as an excuse, that help explain Mitch Battros at EarthChangesTV and his anal fetish with coronal mass ejections (CME's) from the Sun. He's a NASA mouthpiece.
(Trin) No jurian
(Stphrz) Joint: they've admitted it's busted why do you need pics?
(Cosmic) NancyL, can I have a private interview with the aliens? I have a heap load of questions, particularly concerning alien psychology
(RibotOfMiranda) NancyL how do you contact the aliens
(Trin) They are 4th density beings.. They cannot touch you phycially...
(Jeremy) Nancy: Thanks for that, since they [Zetas] said the tt chart was not accurate I was wondering if providing distance figures to us it would help amateur astronomers determine visiblity of PX easier
(Cmel) Times is ripe nancy
(NancyL) Cmel, yes, I think the hours is upon us, and I'll start. 1st Q now ...
(Trin) They have the minoins who can though :)
(Jointwarrior) PROOF
(NancyL) 1. Is the sun's magnetic field blocking the effect of PX's magnetic field on earth when it is behind the sun? The above question was posed b(Dsf231) last week (Aug 17) but there was no answer and it was exactly the same question I had been pondering.
(Ummite) The service to other is already existing go make a search onSscientology it is the religion of the year 2000 you will have more response
(Obany) !notalk
(NancyL) ZT: We have stated that Planet X is disrupting the Earth's equilibrium, and the equilibrium of other planets and their moons, from afar.
(NancyL) ZT: We have stated in explanation of this that mankind little realizes what an equilibrium in a solar system MEANS, understanding little of the factors involved.
(NancyL) ZT: We have stated that mankind assumes the planets are staying where they are due to centrifugal force and motion established a long time ago, and has NO explanation for the ecliptic or the steady and undegrading orbits of the planets.
(NancyL) ZT: We have stated that should mankind understand all the factors involved in the solar system equilibrium, they would not be surprised at the changes, but they are so far from understanding that shock is the reaction.
(NancyL) ZT: But a valid question, in this, is how the Earth could continue to be affected to the point of expressing magnetic diffusion, when the Sun, the giant magnetic influence, stands BETWEEN the Earth and Planet X.
(NancyL) ZT: Is this not a buffer? Would the magnetism not return to normal during these times?
(NancyL) ZT: A disturbed equilibrium is NOT a simple thing, a wire placed between the planets such that cutting this wire returns all to what man considers to be normal.
(NancyL) ZT: A disturbed quilibrium is MANY, virtually thousands, of factors, pulling in all directions, piling up and spilling over slowly, disbursing in directions and then returning.
(NancyL) ZT: Particle flow is something mankind does NOT understand, assuming gravity to be a force, not a flow, and magnetism creating magnetic fields for unexplained reasons.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, when the Earth moves such that the Sun is between Planet X and itself, all the many factors THROUGHOUT the solar system continue to push and pull, unchanged, and unchanged disruption in the equilibrium.
(NancyL) End ZT Followup?
(Obany) !talk
(RudyJoe) Very interesting.
(Samsara2003) At what point this fall will magnetic disruption begin to become undeniable?
(Spirit) We know your astronomical knowledge greatly exceeds our own. It is a waste of time to try to explain the celestial mechanics to us humans.
(Curious) Fascinating ZT response
(Trin) Try tyr
(Cmel) What does pull the moon in?
(Jurian) Question, if Planet X takes 3600 years per orbit, doesn't it influence our solar system for at least 1800 of those years?
(RibotOfMiranda) NancyL do the aliens claim that they understand the universe? Does it mean it's not infinite?
(Redeye) Curious, it always is
(Silk) Can they comment on how that works when all the planets *aren't* between the sun and PlanetX
(Cmel) Does
(Spirit) Ribot: they discuss their knowledge of the universe on
(Samsara2003) Ribot:This is already answered
(Cosmic) NancyL, I would be particularly interested in whether the aliens have an 'unconscious'
(Antigona) Who are the aliens by the way?
(RudyJoe) So, what is going to happen when PX come out from behind the Sun?
(Zetapal) Jurian - Planet X's velocity is not constant
(Ancalag0n) Cos, subconscious?
(Spirit) Cosmic: they discuss their consciousness on already answered.
(Obany) Antigona: check
(RibotOfMiranda) Samsara2003 so what's the answer.
(NancyL) ZT to Samsara: Magnetic diffusion is already causing mankind to move to alternate means of establishing bearings. This has always been the case, as compass failure or erratic magnetic switching about has occurred in the past, unexplained, so sighting on stars or manual controls are always in place, just in case.
(Jurian) Zetapal: no, it floats between the 2 foci, so, spends around 1800 years at either side
(Ummite) NancyL go see that Url: if you want some good explanation go there and say me next weekend if this is a good explanation in 1991 a wave of information as occured that some people whos was putting ther heads in a microwave oven and get dizzy some because they are needing drugs and some because they hear that on TV the army have made experiment that can also show to some spectator a metalic disc what do.
(Samsara2003) See
(Spirit) Ribot: they haven't explored the entire universe, but much more than we have.
(Spirit) Cosmic: they said they don't
(Jurian) Unless it somehow only is on our side for a few years, and 3600 years on the other side
(Spirit) They don't have a subsconsious.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, to the man on the street, little will be said, as MOST of the time the field will guide compasses, and when not, it will be passed off as one of those erratic times, or a compass failure.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, you will find until the weeks when all are staring at the sky, pointing, that no mention of extremes in magnetic changes will be made.
(NancyL) ZT: By then, no one will care.
(NancyL) End ZT to Sam.
(Kiril) Question for NancyL: Please Zeta have project to contact people??
(Samsara2003) Thank you Nancy/Zetas
(RudyJoe) Can we expect to see more devastating catastrophies than are currently happening?
(Cmel) So how does mankind navigate, in the aftertime, when magnetism, doesn't work?
(Obany) Kiril: not related .... see topic
(NancyL) Cmel, see the Science section re the Moon.
(Spirit) Thanks Nancy, and many of us right now are past caring about technical explanations. Do Zeta's have any current advise for accelerating the Awakening?
(Curious) NancyL, as an amateur astononmer, when will PX become visible
(Silk) Cmel, the same way they did it before they discovered magnetism
(Wage) QueenVee: how do the Zetas explain the apparent resurgance of the stock market, wouldn't we be in a much steeper decline now, considering their predictions of a barter system, and total collapse prior to the shift?
(Spirit) Cmel: we won't be traveling much, don't worry.
(RibotOfMiranda) NancyL is your mission now to prove the truth of this? What do the ZT have to say about us surviving.
(Obany) Spirit: see topic...
(NancyL) Silk, too many factors and we don't even speak the language, could not comprehend, or would argue endlessly.
(NancyL) Cosmic, no subconscious, no.
(Silk) Expected
(Trin) Heheeh
(Cmel) Theres a haze?
(Spirit) Obany: thx ;)
(Trin) Very interesting.... seems people want more substanance than just technical mumbo jumbo
(NancyL) Rudy, out from the Sun will involve more sightings, more quakes, more weather problems, increasing right up to the end.
(Cmel) But thx Nancy ??
(Cosmic) NancyL, how do aliens focus their attention on any particular subject?
(NancyL) Rudy, yes, Z's have said we will NOT go on as today, unchanged, to the point of the shift. Lots of weird happening.
(Jazaky) NancyL, do you communicate with the aliens telepathically or face to face?
(Cmel) Thx spirit
(Spirit) Wage: the stock market to me is actually lower than it should be. We saw a short sell-off and buy-back last week, but it is still rather low.
(Zetapal) Cosmic how do you
(Antigona) You seem to know aliens better than people
(NancyL) Curious, Z's say start looking 9/15, they will give new coordiantes, etc.
(Wage) Doesn't suggest total collapse thou, as predicted
(Beenth) Hi Nancy, would you be able to tell me if contactees are being monitored and if they have received protection (unbeknownst to them) by aliens.
(RibotOfMiranda) NancyL do the aliens know if earth is aware?
(Cmel) Needed to know that that
(NancyL) Ribot, my mission is NOT to prove anything to you.
(NancyL) OK, going onto Q2.
(Curious) Thanks NancyL
(RudyJoe) In the end the Earth will be re-stocked with a hybrid race before it shifts into 4th density?
(Obany) !notalk
(NancyL) 1. What is behind the new slant on the site "Don't believe the hype! Planet X returns in 2003! This is not true! Show me the proof!" and the audio statement by Zecharia Sitchin on that site that Planet X will not return in 2003?
(NancyL) 2. On sci.astro someone posted a link to a NASA Kid Story titled "The 10 planets of our solar system, including Nibiru (planet of the passing)" Was this just a submitting by a concerned child or was it an intentional write-up by someone in NASA?
(NancyL) 3. is now officially debunking Planet X destroying earth in 2003! It seems like everyone is trying to get a piece of the action saying it isn't coming next year :-)
(NancyL) This is combined asking about trends noticed. Along these lines I added a table in the 2003 Source link under the ZT banner, saying who is Pro and Con.
(NancyL) For instance, Norlock is saying ZT is right, but the images are clearly fake (no dust cloud or moons, etc.)
(NancyL) For instance, McCanny stated on the PX Video that 2003 will NOT be the date, and now supposedly is saying it IS the date but it will come from opposite direction from Orion.
(NancyL) For instance, Sitchin and Martel stating NOT in 2003, and NASA always in that stance (their stance is no PX at all).
(NancyL) For instance, sci.astro has turned into, as Jan stated, alt.flame.zetatalk, with so many threads generated and posting that fully 1/2 of all new postings on sci.astro are about ZT being a pile of poop.
(NancyL) This, in spite of the fact that I've hardly been posting, weeks go by with no posting, and then one or two about estimated size math.
(NancyL) Clearly, from my view as well as noticed by others, a campaign to say NOT 2003 NO WAY AND ZT IS A PILE OF POOP!
(NancyL) By staying away, a Zeta ploy, this campaign is more obvious. Now the Z's comments.
(NancyL) ZT: Campaigns to discredit ZetaTalk can be easily discerned when we step out of the dance, but the dance goes on anyway.
(NancyL) ZT: An example of that is the Hazelwood campaign to discredit ZT by association with money scams, claiming that the whole PX issue is to scarf up money by inciting panic.
(NancyL) ZT: Nancy effectively sidestepped this by calling Hazelwood what he is, at the start, getting him kicked out of TT for soliciting funds as he was doing, and by being broke and living in poverty.
(NancyL) ZT: When it was time for this campaign to culminate, Hazelwood went onto Art Bell, Rense declaired it a fraud, and Sara Mac and others on sci.astro began loud claims that Nancy was getting rich.
(NancyL) ZT: Sara Mac is still at it, not having realized that her barbs are utterly pointless.
(NancyL) ZT: Hazelwood did not succeed in getting rich, as his promoters turned their backs on him when this campaign failed, but he continues still, hoping for another opportunity.
(NancyL) ZT: Had Nancy joined in the money games, or allowed them, this campaign would have STUCK, and afforded those who would discredit her a time of calm, not fear, from the ZT message.
(NancyL) ZT: In like manner, the Summer of 2002 was deemed another opportunity for the disinfo crowd.
(NancyL) ZT: They know that the Spring of 2003 will see a strong red cross in the sky, visible to all during the daylight hours, coming from beneath the Sun toward them, increasing in size.
(NancyL) ZT: Plans for these days are much under discussion, but all the elite are grim about these times, knowing them to be virtually unexplanable to the general public.
(NancyL) ZT: The Winter preceding this Spring is expected to be handled by creating distractions, such as police actions in Iraq, staged terrorism which may NOT be real at all, but claimed to be such, and claims that what is being sighted in the sky is a comet of sorts, or a nova, or any number of such things.
(NancyL) ZT: The fact that it will be EXACTLY where we have predicted since 1995 is hoped to be overlooked, by a prolonged discrediting campaign against ZT.
(NancyL) ZT: This is the campaign you see now, from various sources, all seemingly independent but NOT so.
(NancyL) ZT: And what is the glue between these various sources, all claiming that ZT is wrong, or claiming it is right but having some lack of integrity factor that one can see is to rub off on Nancy and ZT.
(NancyL) ZT: Glue is often hard to discern, and most often is not what one would assume.
(NancyL) ZT: In the case of Hazelwood on Art Bell, it is NOT Art at all that is being manipulated, but friends in the music field who then lean on Art.
(NancyL) ZT: Don't those in the media have friends, family, and those they socialize with?
(NancyL) ZT: Mark Hazelwood is the son of a famous musician, known personally to Art Bell, and thus, this string is pulled easily.
(NancyL) ZT: Sitchin as we have stated from the begining of ZetaTalk has personal reluctance to realize the horror will occur in his lifetime, the not-in-my-lifetime response.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, ANY fact in the confusing mix will be used to assure him that it will NOT come in his lifetime.
(NancyL) ZT: He additionally does not want to be the bearer of bad tidings, and even when convinced he has been wrong, will not say so, leaving this to others.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, pressing him to STATE 2003 or NOT has not been hard, as when pressed he would, of course, say NOT.
(NancyL) ZT: His preference was, obviously, no comment, but he was not allowed this option by those who knew which way he would jump.
(NancyL) ZT: Carrying great weight, his words are hoped to weight in among the crowd of lesser folk, discrediting ZT or at least discouraging the public from taking it seriously.
(NancyL) ZT: McCanny, long in science, is more manipulated by his desire to be center stage, THE important one, than any deception.
(NancyL) ZT: He is sitting on the fence, hoping to be RIGHT, to be able to claim so, no matter which way the outcome.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, when the weight of evidence leaned against 2003, he stated this, but when earth changes started weighing in, he dithers, and one can expect him to dither BACK to support ZT and claim he said so all along when the time comes.
(NancyL) ZT: Thankfully, he is on film on the Planet X Video, stating 2003 will NOT occur, so he himself can be discredited, by his own words.
(NancyL) ZT: NASA has long been so tight in their Planet X coverup that they can hardly reverse, but are doing so in the kiddy corner.
(NancyL) ZT: Talking to kids, who talk to their parents, is allowed.
(NancyL) ZT: They will claim it is the Sun, a comet, a nova, until the Spring of 2003 when another excuse will be generated.
(NancyL) ZT: To shelter the elite in bunkers, they may claim an aggressive asteroid, outgassing and moving directly toward Earth, or a close passage.
(NancyL) ZT: This would allow all manner of movement of military and the power mongers in Washington DC, as well as those in Russia to move to tue Urals, the Brits to Australia, and the wealthy to their spots, without delay.
(NancyL) ZT: NASA is only addressing the issue in the kiddy corner, to have a PLACE to direct those asking, just as the elite are expected to direct the desperate to Troubled Times and ZT when asked what they, their governments, are going to DO to protect and help them during these times.
(NancyL) ZT: The media can be expected to report stories as provided, as they do today.
(NancyL) ZT: Does anyone think that the mix being presented by the major media, anywhere in the world, is a fair reporting of what is RELEVANT?
(NancyL) ZT: Where the press is not suppressed, it is burdened with reporting the irrelevant, and this is not specific to any country, but is a factor of existing politics and control.
(NancyL) The trends noted where 2003 is loudly pronounced NOT to be the year, and ZT a pile of poop, is related to the campaign which was supposed to be supported by ZT coordinates, which Open Minded and others on sci.astro could use to claim NOT THERE!
(NancyL) ZT: When ZT refused to provide the coordinates, Open Minded when to the dance alone, dancing with himself, showing the campaign for what it was.
(NancyL) ZT: Why would he loudly state NOT THERE, when pointing to spots HE had conjured up?
(NancyL) ZT: Because, like Sara Mac's claims that Nancy was getting rich, it was time, and he was doing what was planned, on schedule.
(NancyL) ZT: And what about Jason Martel, long lecturing about Planet X to MUFON, long respected for his web site on Nibiru?
(NancyL) ZT: Since he claims that Sitchin is the authority, would he be expected to say otherwise?
(NancyL) ZT: Sitchin is pressed, Martel follows along, and all this is predictable.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, one can look BEYOND any behavior of ZT to see what is behind the trends, and what the establishment hopes to accomplish.
(NancyL) ZT: Once again, by appearing to be IN the game, then stepping OUT, those who would point mankind in the wrong directions, taking from them their right to know, are revealed for what THEY are.
(NancyL) ZT: They go to the dance, even without the partner expected, dancing alone, causing all to point and ask "why"?
(NancyL) End ZT followup?
(Obany) !talk
(Grimbot) Ok, everyone can talk now.
(HBO) Recent article on by Michael Heiser blasts Sitchin interpretation of summarian tablets and pretty much says Sitchin cannot translate ancient Summarian... comments?
(shaddyslim) Nancy any comments on the big elite meeting with Bush in Texas and they didn't discuss Iraq?
(RibotOfMiranda) NancyL what is your mission then? seems like it's discussing a lot of science, and what's the point of that except convincing the scientific society?
(IdolHarobed) Question: Are the Ica Stones a true evidence of the passage of a 10th planet?
(RudyJoe) As the time draws nearer and more and more events confirm Zetatalk, will Nancy's opponents openly admit they were mistaken, or will they continue to disparage her message to the bitter end? Will they airbrush the photos to cover up PX like they do with the UFOs caught on film?
(Piet) You can make a bigger effort to appear more credible. You make it easy for people to discredit you with all this alien talk. Who have experiences of aliens talking to them everyday like you, anyway? Try to appeal to the normal person! They don't belief this alien-new-age-faith.
(Dowley) By telling us mid2002 the z's STARTED a disinfo campain, why not simply say Sept then there wouldn't have been any crys of it's not there
(MikeO) This week's cover of "U.S. News & World Report" features a full-page photo of elegant crop circle. The headline screams "The Art of the Hoax." The story suggests that ALL crop circles are hoaxes. By doing this, was 'U.S. News' playing into the hands of debunkers within the government? Or is there more to the story?
(Silk) Guess the "barbs" went pretty deep - lol
(Freedom) Are the new Chinese 'Long March' rockets meant for the elite to escape earth in case the American shuttles don't work?
(GovernmentAgent) Lol
(Samsara2003) Q: Why have the zetas stopped debating directly with those on Sci.Astro, as they have in the past?
(S7L) IMO really didn't try to say 'here are coords fo Planet X, look there'. IMO merely disproved your claim that the general area of sky wouldn't be visible.
(Zetapal) Jealous for them Piet?
(S7L) I think you just grossly misrepresented what he tried to say
(Spirit) Thank you Zetas.
(Xenu) Will the Zeta comment on the recent trolling of sci.astro by "ABC", which started right after you stopped posting there?
(Trin) Really it is wrong to depend on a group of entities to feed you truth.. though they may inundate you with loads of technical knowledge ... you will never see the entire picture untill you look to the source for yourself... this is what Jesus and all great master have been trying to teach man for centuries... to ascend to the true hegths of what he really is... to be all that he can be in a sense. Grin
(Redeye) Nancy. will the zetatalk message get promoted by other sources, the right message getting through in other media, in the near future ?
(Silk) After all the Zetas posted the final coordinates as well
(Trin) We all need to learn to get intouch with the universal vibration... which begins with getting in touch with our personal vibration.. then the regonal vibration... then the planetary vibration... then the solar system vibration... then the SUN's vibration through which you will be able to contact the universal vibration.. or energy FLOW...
(STOwarrior) Nancy, listen to S7L
(Obany) And then Jason Martell has made a page he puts Hazlewood and Nancy on the same page and points to some discredting links.
(Longint) Piet: why are you assuming that if aliens are here, they couldn't communicate with us? And they are here, this is not the question!
(Jan) Nancy, should others (like myself) jump in on sci.astro when the allegations are getting too bad, or should they be left alone?
(Silk) Hardly a tweak on a telescope would cover that whole area
(GovernmentAgent) Why don't you post your bullshit to conspiracy and crackpot groups instead of sci.astro
(Piet) Show them to me!
(Jeremy) Redeye: I advocate the central message of ZT on my website already
(Curious) NancyL: By the way, FYI: the Safe Zones link on your site does not seem to be working. Maybe you are working on updating same? Curious how the mountains of western NC will fare, where I live...but then maybe I don't want to know...
(Jurian) Ffs, stop trolling on sci.astro
(NancyL) HBO, Sitchin has been around a long time, undisputed. Where was Heiser then?
(Desert9) "Did themselves in." Nancy/ZT could you please clarify the Zeta's response?
(Mike) Stay off of sci.astro.... makes you look foolish
(CyberVVizz) I just wonder how many of you are really open minded and just wait to see the results :-)
(Jurian) It is absolutely USELESS to keep "posting" to sci.astro. NOONE there is interested in it. You're just annoying them, on purpose, by posting there
(NancyL) Shaddy, Bush in TX is trying to plot all he is not talking about, no question :-)
(Redeye) Jeremy : whats the address ?
(HBO) Good point, thx
(Obany) What could do, to counter the discrediting by people like Jason Martell etc.
(Piet) I don't hear them!
(NancyL) Ribot, my mission is to get this message out.
(NancyL) Idol, Inca stones sure are evidence.
(Obany) What could one do ... I mean
(Jurian) NancyL: sci.astro is not the place for that
(Jeremy) Redeye:
(Focus27) Nancy, will you make another appearance on Art Bell before the shift?
(NancyL) Rudy, they will not admit, they will just disappear.
(RainMan) Good question focus27
(GovernmentAgent) You don't get it out that way, try crackpot groups instead of sci-groups
(Redeye) Cheers Jer
(CptJ) Found this if anyone interested more debunking.....
(IdolHarobed) Thanks Nancy! God bless you!
(NancyL) Piet, who are YOU to make any kind of statement.
(Xenu) Really, no one on sci.astro is going to be swayed, or spread the word
(Piet) A right-minded person!
(Spirit) Let's go on to the next question and not degenerate into this mess again.
(Guyflex) Can't the major media be influenced to get the right message out?
(Piet) Who are you!
(Obany) There are some more sites .... that debunk ... like
(Jurian) Stop the personal insults Nancy, they serve no purpose
(Alexey) Nancy, what can we do to the vast majority of people who are in denial, including really good people, to help them open up to the message of 2003 Pole Shift?
(NancyL) Dowley, by stating (true) that size wise will be visible in mid-2002, allowed this disinfo campaign to 1. assuage those wanting a campaign, 2. fall on their swords when the campaign played out.
(Stphrz) Give us proof, Alexey
(Spirit) Alexy: nothing. Personally prepare yourself, tell close friends you trust.
(Stphrz) Give us proof
(Dowley) I see
(GovernmentAgent) Only ppl in denial are zetacult followers
(Dimension-Rider) Yes proof is want we need!
(Silk) I enjoy the personal insults, just shows I'm making a point
(Alexey) Spirit - you're not Nancy and Zetas:)
(Spirit) Sorry Alexey. ;)
(GovernmentAgent) So does the visibility date (15th of Sept) still hold, or have the zetas changed it again?
(NancyL) Mike-O, yes re crop circles, BOTH truth and falsehood at once, I noted. Signs pointing out that bent, not broken, crop is not possible by humans, etc.
(Zetapal) GovAgent saying it doesn't make it so
(GovernmentAgent) Zetapal: and Nancy saying something doesn't make it so
(RudyJoe) GA: Most folks here are willing to keep an open mind.
(Desert9) NancyL: ZT said the basis for the Blair Witch story is factual. The filmmakers, Daniel Myrick and Eduardo Sánchez, fabricated every aspect of the myth, admittedly. Could the Zetas/you please clarify?
(Ummite) The army is trying to discredit this affair but zeta are not getting any proof for those who can't understand what is a pole shift or a magnetic field the zeta dont help us they are doing just like the US army
(Piet) 15th Sept BETER HOLD!
(Guyflex) The media in my country want proof first before they will publish anything!
(GovernmentAgent) RudyJoe: some folks here can calculate and understand basic physics and astronomy
(Zetapal) Tit-for tat Agent
(NancyL) I suspect that BOTH parties, those wanting man to cling to elite for protection, not embrace aliens, AND those wanting more truth about crop circle phenomena, are getting their hands in.
(Wage) Next question
(Obany) Desert9: not related
(IdolHarobed) If ZT is not true, why do you so-called skeptics keep fighting it?
(Xenu) Idol, some people wish to show the truth
(Zetapal) Because they love us - lol
(SteveH) Jan, it's interesting on sci.astro with the debunking posts just spiraling up and up for really no reason
(RudyJoe) GA: I don't believe you when it comes to that!
(Xenu) And others wish to propagate a hoax
(NancyL) ZT to Mike-O: This type of response could be expected during the Planet X awakening, with a push BACK commesurate with a push FORWARD.
(SteveH) It's almost frantic on there
(IdolHarobed) Haha
(Jurian) SteveH: well, of course it is
(NancyL) ZT: For every coup by Nancy or other truth sayers, there will be a disinfo campaign, louder depending upon the public reaction.
(Xenu) Steve, only because of the recent trolling by Zeta followers
(Michael) Havas! Is that you?
(Jurian) Whenever anyone from sci.astro says anything on the TT mailing lists, they're banned
(Jurian) Usenet doesn't have that feature
(Xenu) If they didn't troll, there wouldn't be a peep
(GovernmentAgent) IdolHarobed: because Nancy keeps trollin sci.astro. if s.a. readers don't debunk it all the time, she'll use it as an argument "even the scientist can't debunk blah blah"
(Jurian) So all they can do it keep replying
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, we often cause Nancy to appear to limp, as this sets back the force of disinfo, and they suddenly, a SUCCESS, and thus truth is promoted.
(Spirit) Come on, let's talk to the Zeta's. We can argue amongst ourselves at another time.
(NancyL) End ZT to Mike-O.
(Stphrz) NancyL: you need us debunkers
(CyberVVizz) Truth is always in your heart
(NancyL) Samsara, I've been quiet to make it clear, on sci.astro, that the disinfo dance WAS to occur, whether I was posting or not.
(Stphrz) Without us you won't get the attention
(Xenu) Lol, your heart
(Spirit) Zeta's, I'm ready for the next step.
(NancyL) Not lost on the readership!
(Guyflex) Most persons I have given this information to express fear and will not research further. How will this change?
(Jan) SteveH, I have mostly left it alone, but when Tom & Sarah went IMO too far in ZT/TT allegations I felt I had to correct that. Mainly I try to stay out, though, just to show their self.
(GovernmentAgent) I've asked this before. I'll ask again. How can you tell the difference between "Zeta-voices" and schizophrenia?
(NancyL) S7L, he is pointing to HIS spots, how could he not?
(SteveH) Don't tell me, you that's Michael Cunningham?
(Jan) ... their self-generating modus operandi.
(S7L) NancyL: they are based on YOUR coordinates. Emphasis for symmetry
(Alexey) Zetas, how can we help people (good people too) to open up and to realize that Poleshift IS approaching in 2003?
(NancyL) Xenu, any ZT fan is a "troll"?
(Michael) How's your telescope and CCD imaging coming Jan?
(Xenu) You should have stayed out of it Jan, you just made it worse
(IdolHarobed) GovernmentAgent: Do believe we are spirits?
(S7L) Your coords vary very little, so he has the whole area covered.
(RudyJoe) Why don't we just wait and see what happens?
(S7L) Hi MC :)
(Ummite) NancyL: i understand but how do you think we can believe I dont have extra money you know and if it occured I wish to have a good proof cause without that if PX occured I will die like other only one proof
(Spirit) GoverAgent: if you read the entire zetatalk material, it is obviously not the work of schizophrenia.
(NancyL) Jan, your occasional posts, as with ABC, are jewels.
(Jurian) NancyL: Posting in sci.astro, a group that clearly has NO interest in zetatalk, IS trolling
(GovernmentAgent) Spirit: lol, it's a text book example of schizophrenia
(Xenu) Ahh, so Nancy knows ABC -
(Jurian) Wether or not ZT is true or not, is completely irrelevant. It is trolling. simple as that
(NancyL) Silk, yet where is Open Minded POINTING to when he says "not there"? Not "where" :-).
(CyberVVizz) Well I think GovernmentAgent, Your ego is so big as your handle
(Silk) Less than 3 dgrees below your last coordinates
(GovernmentAgent) CyberVVizz: lol
(CyberVVizz) :-)
(Jeremy) Nancy: I believe of course that PX will return next year, but I doubt it will be sighted by amateurs as early as September
(Silk) The whole field visible in a finderscope
(Spirit) Gov Agent: the pole shift part is a very small part of it. there is much sound information on history, current events, spirituality, nature, philosophy, religion, etc.
(RibotOfMiranda) S7L did you read what Nancy said about orbits?
(S7L) RibotOfMiranda: I'm afraid I didn't.
(NancyL) Beg the pardon of any good followup, but I want to include the last 2 Q's, will try to gather during cleaning up the log, etc.
(Silk) A "look around" would cover those coordinates
(NancyL) Onto Q3...
(GovernmentAgent) Spirit: exactly, religion. this is a cult and nothing more.
(Obany) !notalk
(NancyL) 1. This Oleg from Russia says the Norlok space probe from Russia took these photos of Planet "X" and that Zetas are accurate. Is this a disinformation hoax, or was there a real Norlok probe?
(NancyL) ZT: Related to our last answer, this claim is obvious.
(NancyL) ZT: It appears, on its face, to substantiate ZT, and should Nancy CLAIM it, she would have egg on her face.
(NancyL) ZT: Expected to be too bloody from the beating to notice, she was expected to embrace it, which she did not.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, this so-called-friend comes cloaked poorly, and did not succeed.
(NancyL) End ZT (not followup, next Q4).
(NancyL) BIBLE
(NancyL) 1. Although I understand that whether we experience 3 days of night or day just before the Shift depends on where one is situated on the globe, the Bible and many Christian seers of this last century talk exclusively of 3 days of intense darkness. As all the ancient prophesis of many cultures agree on so many points is there any likelihood of the globe stopping so most people experience "night" and if so would this affect the continents movements and ultimate positions? Many of my Christian friends ask this question or a varient of it.
(NancyL) 2. Revelations text from the Bible has been added to the Prophecy TOPIC in Troubled Timesay.
(NancyL) I went in and did some research, found the 3 days of absolute darkness in the Fatima visions, NOT the Bible, which does not state that.
(NancyL) ZT: The Bible, when written, as we have stated, had a specific audience of those in the region, as Jesus was just one of many Star Children visiting Earth with the intent of passing on a message of love-thy-neighbor-as-thyself, and the spread of Christianity not anticipated anymore than the spread of the Koran almost worldwide.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, those who interpreted his words, or put their personal visions into words, were in this tradition, speaking to the people of the area.
(NancyL) ZT: Revelations describes, often in symbolic language, the pole shift coming next year, by explaining what those in the regions would experience.
(NancyL) ZT: Hail, earthquakes, exploding volcanoes that darken the sky with ash, fire storms from air passing over the volcanoes, and being on the Long Day side of the Earth, a fire dragon in the sky.
(NancyL) ZT: The heat of the Long Day, an unending beating of the summer sun on an area near the Equator.
(NancyL) ZT: The heat of hot earth as many fault lines adjust, some by subducting under each other or by allowing lava to flow closer to the surface.
(NancyL) ZT: Frantic insects of the desert, not waiting for night to creep about but running in panic over people not used to this experience.
(NancyL) ZT: In reading the words of Revelations, those words that apply to the Earth Changes without doubt, one can see what folklore and ourselves are explaining will occur.
(NancyL) ZT: So what of the Fatima prophecy of 3 days of utter darkness, which has become a virtual expection of the faithful.
(NancyL) ZT: The Fatima revelations are much under the thumb of the Pope, who is scarsely telling his flock the truth.
(NancyL) ZT: The current Pope, and his entourage, have announced that the Fatima secrets withheld were about a Pope's assassination, hardly something to keep secret!
(NancyL) ZT: Does anyone believe this, when he has purchased, with the funds of the faithful, viewing time in Arizona to WATCH the approach of Planet X?
(NancyL) ZT: So why would a statement, such as 3 days of darkness, even be made?
(NancyL) ZT: Because it is a hallmark statement, something that could not be, and would not be, confused with ANY occurrence leading up to the pole shift.
(NancyL) ZT: In short, a catastrophic LIE, to mislead, to keep the flock quiescent, to keep them at home, or praying in the churches, to leave the Pope free to travel with his entourage to wherever he may chose, as it can be assumed that that the TIME IS NOT NEAR.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, we are saying that this was NOT what those at Fatima received, in any truthful vision, but the truth is being altered by the Pope.
(NancyL) ZT: Those who know otherwise are either dead, or not expected to speak out.
(NancyL) End ZT Followup?
(Obany) !talk
(RudyJoe) Nancy, will Zetatalk provide space for posting of photos of PX taken by amateur astronomers if and when it becomes visible?
(Grimbot) Ok, everyone can talk now.
(Abk) Who provided the vision to the children at Fatima, and what did it show?
(Xenu) Nancy, since you claim to be reading sci.astro, will you comment on the money you borrowed from the non-profit?
(Spirit) Thank you, Zetas.
(Samsara2003) Will the pope make mention of the term "Wormwood" when it becomes visible in April?
(Silk) Everybody's lying and covering up *except* for Nancy and dead people :o)
(RibotOfMiranda) Do the ZT use erroneous punctuation as you do?
(Piet) Revelations also tell of the coming of God's Kingdom soon after the shift, not some aliens. But sadly not all will be part of this Kingdom. Big surprise to those expecting grey aliens to bring "enlightenment".
(Silk) Will the Zetas provide a magnitude with the coordinates Sept 16th?
(NewGuy) To the bitter end? Will they airbrush the photos to cover up PX like they do with the UFOs caught on film?
(NewGuy) Piet: You can make a bigger effort to appear more credible. You make it easy for people to discredit you with all this alien talk. Who have experiences of aliens talking to them everyday like you, anyway?
(Obany) Xenu: that is not a #zetatalk channel issue ... so don't ask that
(Xenu) Sorry, though TT was mentioned here
(Beurling) Thanks to Nancy and Zetas for your good work. Ŕ la prochaine.
(NancyL) Rudy, posting images that are REAL will be done, but not the disinfo that Open Minded already has in his possession, ready to post, claiming the date taken other than it is, etc etc.
(NancyL) I expect a lot of noise, in other words, among the words of truth, this Fall.
(Silk) How can it be disinfor when you provided the final coordinates Nancy?
(Longint) Quiz for StarChildren - determining wether or not you are a StarChild:
(Silk) How hard is it to draw a minuscule line from here to there?
(CyberVVizz) :-))
(NancyL) Sam, the Pope will not address PX at all, I expect. NOT a good person, for sure.
(MichaelCunningham) And who will post the REAL images Nancy?
(Samsara2003) Wow
(Silk) Unless Planet X is going to go an torrid rampage around the night sky
(Stphrz) NancyL: you are oh so judgemental. Prove he's not a good person
(Zetapal) Proofs got nothin to do with it
(Xenu) Why didn't Troubled Times rent time on an observatory scope to "view the inbound planet X"?
(BC) Nancy.. your Pope remark is poop...
(IdolHarobed) He drinks water in gold cups, while Africa starves...
(CyberVVizz) The 3th Fatima reveals also the end of the church and global cataclysm
(NancyL) NewGuy, you cannot expect NASA and their lackies to say ANYTHING truthful. Do you get to see what the Hubble images, off the reel? No? Why NOT? Because they are not telling you the truth.
(beta) Stp: obvious, he lives in luxury, getting millions from the poor in Latin America and elsewhere
(SteveH) Then why does the pope pamper child rapists?
(Silk) Then why do you quote NASA so often Nancy?
(IdolHarobed) Not good...
(RudyJoe) We can not trust NASA.
(Obany) I am pretty sure that after the new coordinates will be givven there will some good sightings ... and then things will excelerate
(RibotOfMiranda) You all live in luxury letting ppl starve, are you not good?
(NancyL) Silk, because the coordiantes for Jan 5th and Jan 19th were DIFFERENT, and those images focused on those areas. You DOPE!
(GovernmentAgent) Yeah, we can only trust the voices in her head. lol
(Silk) I'm a dope?
(NancyL) Silk, you're assuming a straight line! A NEW ZT Emissary! SILK!
(MichaelCunningham) Who will post the REAL images Nancy?
(Silk) Nancy, you posted coordinates in June, those coordinates are less than a few degrees away from your final coordinates
(MikeO) This has been the longest ZT chat yet. Thanks for the great work, Nancy.
(RudyJoe) Ignoramus would have been a better word to use.
(Silk) All in the view of a finderscope
(Spirit) Nancy, thank you for putting in the overtime!
(NancyL) Michael C, who earns his living insulting ZT and disinfo, REAL images will be posted by me, who has integrity, certainly not YOU, who has never predicted, nor have a prediction accuracy.
(RainMan) Dito !
(Silk) Is Niburu going to fly around the night sky?
(Spirit) Can we elevate the chat beyond the high school level please?
(MichaelCunningham) So you now have a telescope Nancy?
(CyberVVizz) I agree, Spirit
(JanR) Michael, since you are so interested in my efforts: Gotten myself the STAR 2000 guiding, upgraded my scope to the latest & greatest software from Meade, awaiting my SuperWedge, bought some more software to play with (DeepSky, Starry Night Pro, AstroPlanner etc.)
(JanR) Gonna have a lot of fun!
(NancyL) SteveH, this was stated on ZT or IRC recently, Pope does not take out the child rapists because he has in place a tight inner circle, many guilty, and does not want to disrupt this circle going into the shift.
(BC) Charge it Jan.. no need to repay...
(Spirit) Jan, I have a scope and software as well. Astronomy is fascinating.
(Zetapal) Great Jan
(Curious) Even if no PX
(RudyJoe) Nancy, Is there anyone out there who can be trusted?
(MichaelCunningham) Very nice Jan... my comment was directed towards Nancy since she says she'll post the images
(Curious) Ha ha
(Alexey) Nancy, how can we help people who are in denial about 2003 Pole Shift, to get back to the real reality and make decisions according to it?
(NancyL) He expect to survive, emerge to lead AGAIN what he has in place, and needs the inner circle, so avoids disrupting this for their petty crimes.
(Silk) So Nancy, no comment on the posted coordinates by you?
(JanR) Even had to get a new laptop for Astro use only, as the old PII was unstable.
(Jurian) MichaelCunningham: obviously, she'd need someone to give her the images first :)
(MichaelCunningham) Where will you get these images of your planet to post Nancy?
(Silk) Only a few degrees diffrerence?
(NancyL) So much for caring about the choir boys, ruined by child rapists. Utterly disgusting.
(Redeye) Good Q Alexy but I think has been answered before
(Alexey) When?
(NancyL) Rudy, yes, Steve Havas can be, and I :-)
(Ummite) Nancy where I can find the posted photo of PX
(RudyJoe) Utterly disgusting! I concur.
(Jurian) Kill the Pope, and burn the Vatican!
(Piet) Nancy: Not all Christians are Catholic!
(Silk) Heheh Jurian
(Zetapal) MC if Nancy posts images, rest assured it won't be from an instamatic
(S7L) Jurian: rescue the wine first.
(Jurian) S7L: obviously :)
(JanR) Michael, we both know that Nancy doesn't have a scope and will not get one. Why the question then?
(Phoenix) Q: I have no star charts, could Z's give general location of Planet X, say at Orion's shoulder or something?
(Abk) when the debunkers succeed in lowering the level of discussion to bickering and name-calling, they have won. Would you ask the Z's how we can avoid this?
(RudyJoe) Piet: Not all Catholics are Christians.
(Spirit) Nancy: we cannot fully understand someone else's position or why they do what they do, until we are in that position.
(MichaelCunningham) Steve Havas doesn't know what he's looking at in a telescope
(NancyL) Alexy, I hear often about problems convincing family, etc. This is a problem I myself have. Z's advise to NOT push, but just be there when they are ready to talk.
(3j) Question: will PX be visible by mid september 2002 ?
(Redeye) Alexy: in previous chat session, in logs
(SteveH) Nancy, I know, my remark for meant for Stphrz :)
(Jeremy) Alexy: There is a when to tell 'Family & Friends' page on ZT that may be relevant to your question
(RibotOfMiranda) NancyL why do the ZT give out this message? Shouldn't they come with a solution?
(Piet) Don't think Christian = Catholic
(Obany) I am pretty sure there will be some trustable people who will make the pictures.
(Spirit) Abk: they have not won. We are still here as well.
(MichaelCunningham) I would like Nancy to answer... from where will she get the images?
(Desert9) Nancy - I realize that PX is inbound but I have the 1 question - the makers of the Blair Witch said they completely fabricted the myth. The Zetas say Blaire Witch was not extraterrestrial or done by spirits, but by powerful spirits incarnated in humans who wished to be left alone, which they arranged by quite human means. Similar to VooDoo, where the suggestible did themselves in.
(NancyL) Ummite, there is no photo of Px, but images in infrared by Haute Provence the best, and Open Minded's unexpected image on Jan 5th of 2002.
(Pastaboy) Michael... duh the question was asked IF she would post them
(Pastaboy) "Nancy, will Zetatalk provide space for posting of photos of PX taken by amateur astronomers if and when it becomes visible?"
(Silk) And none of them show Planet X
(Abk) Spirit - yes we're here, but the time wasted in nonsense could provide three times as many answers
(MichaelCunningham) Took the words right out of my mouth Silk
(Silk) Just mag 20 stars, that have been there for years
(NancyL) Obany, there will be those surprises, yes :-) Haute Provence was a surprise :-)
(RibotOfMiranda) NancyL I suggest u use tab after writing the first letter in someone's nick, then u get the whole nickname quickly.
(NancyL) Michael, anywhere but from YOU!
(S7L) Abk: this is meta information. The answers can be meaningless if the source fails about one of the major predictions, that of the existence of Planet X.
(RudyJoe) Hey, Pastaboy... that was my question!!!
(Spirit) Abk: Yes, I agree. Let's carry on a higher conversation in parallel to the bickering, then.
(MichaelCunningham) Nancy, who will provide the images for you?
(S7L) It's currently seriously in doubt.
(GovernmentAgent) It's a bit hard to take photos of something that doesn't exist
(Pastaboy) Yes it was
(IdolHarobed) Good tip!
(Silk) Spirit, can't handle the obvious failures?
(NancyL) Ribot, no suggestions from you as to how to proceed during a chat, run your own chats if you're unhappy.
(RudyJoe) Make up your own questions.
(Zetapal) Gov Agent - wrong, it's impossible
(Obany) Well I am sure it does exist... and for some time now
(Spirit) Silk, what are you talking about? I have not been discussing success and failure.
(Silk) So much for suggestions Rib - lol
(Jurian) NancyL: UNF, that was a helpful suggestion. To make things easier for you
(NancyL) OK folks, the hour is more than up. I will scan for good Q's that I should have addressed as it was a full agenda, etc.
(NancyL) Thank you all for attending!
(Jurian) Guess you're too busy bitching at everyone to notice FRIENDLY ADVICE eh?
(Spirit) Later Nancy
(RainMan) Thank you and good bye
(MichaelCunningham) Nancy, Jan has yet to provide positive inaging techniques for his equipment. Who will provide the images to you?
(NancyL) Later, next week, etc :-)
(Pastaboy) Amateurs Michael... just like yourself
(IdolHarobed) :)
(RudyJoe) Thanks for another interesting session!
(NancyL) Bye!
Session Close: Sat Aug 24 18:28:33 2002